Islam vs homosexuality

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    We don't hate those sinner who become good and repent to God from that sin.
    * the one who repent from the sin is as the one who has no sin, this what prophet Mohammad PBUH said.

    We all have bad and low behaviours, but Allah save some people from that so they have to thank Him, and the other have to repent to Him to get that Light of Nobility from Him.

    If you did something wrong, then say I am wrong, don't say God allaw it.
    Don't envent a lie against God The Holy.


    For those who say that homosexual must have their rights and people has no right to hate them?

    what if someone says: I don't know why people hate me for I do sex with my mother?

    Why religious people are against me?

    homosexuality is a crime, so you have to humble yourself before God and ask Him forgiveness if you want to keep His favour upon you (the nice image He has gaven you).

    God has forbidden illegal sex and all bad behaviours

    And Allâh judges, there is none to put back His Judgement and He is Swift at reckoning." (41).

    God is The Lord of this universe
    23. He cannot be questioned as to what He does, while they will be questioned.

    80. And (remember) Lout (Lot), when he said to his people: "Do you commit the worst sin such as none preceding you has committed in the worlds?

    81. "Verily, you practise your lusts on men instead of women. Nay, but you are a people transgressing beyond bounds (by committing great sins)."

    82. And the answer of his people was only that they said: "Drive them out of your town, these are indeed men who want to be pure"

    83. Then We saved him and his family, except his wife; she was of those who remained behind (in the torment).

    84. And We rained down on them a rain (of stones). Then see what was the end of the Mujrimûn (criminals, polytheists, sinners, etc.).



    And in another place in the holy Quran, God said what means:

    77. And when Our Messengers came to Lout (Lot), he was grieved on their account and felt himself straitened for them (lest the town people should approach them to commit sodomy with them). He said: "This is a distressful day."

    78. And his people came rushing towards him, and since aforetime they used to commit crimes (sodomy, etc.), he said: "O my people! Here are my daughters (i.e. the daughters of my nation), they are purer for you (if you marry them lawfully). So fear Allâh and degrade me not as regards my guests! Is there not among you a single right-minded man?"

    79. They said: "Surely you know that we have neither any desire nor in need of your daughters, and indeed you know well what we want!"

    80. He said: "Would that I had strength (men) to overpower you, or that I could betake myself to some powerful support (to resist you)."

    81. They (Messengers) said: "O Lout (Lot)! Verily, we are the Messengers from your Lord! They shall not reach you![] So travel with your family in a part of the night, and let not any of you look back, but your wife (will remain behind), verily, the punishment which will afflict them, will afflict her. Indeed, morning is their appointed time. Is not the morning near?"

    82. So when Our Commandment came, We turned (the towns of Sodom in Palestine) upside down, and rained on them stones of baked clay, piled up;

    83. Marked from your Lord, and they are not ever far from the Zâlimûn (polytheists, evil-doers, etc.).



    You defend criminals

    Dear brothers/sisters,
    Stop homosexuality, you don't need it.
    Stop it and begin a new life.

    the one who repent from the sin is as the one who has no sin.

    I hope you will understand Islam.
     
    a slave of Allah, Sep 19, 2008 IP
  2. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #2
    I understand you are very intolerant.

    Perhaps it is you who sin and should repent.

    What do you think about me drinking a glass of wine while I surf the Internet and post to you? Am I a sinner in your eyes who needs to repent? Will your God punish me for having a drink of alcohol?
     
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    stOx Notable Member

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    #3
    Stop obsessing over other peoples genitalia, it's really creepy.
     
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    happpy Well-Known Member

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    #4
    the story of LOT / LOUT / LOHT is also in the christian bible.

    and it´s true - the ancient gods, that once came down from heaven, to teach us and transform us to what we are now,
    they did not want any unproductive sexual practices going on.

    simple why

    because overly lust like sodomy, homosexuality etc. spawn and spread diseases and immorality among people.

    why do we have ghettos nowadays? why do we have AIDS?

    its because everyone sh*ts on everyone.
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    Do you think 'homos' should be put to death?

    Simple question...........

    I could say I think being obsessed with religion is 'wrong' and should be illegal, and should not be tolerated, and I hate you for it. Would you like that?...
     
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    happpy Well-Known Member

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    i can not judge over other people. i am not god.

    i dont want nobody put to death.

    its everyones own way of life. but according to islam koran and christian bible, homosexuality is a sin.

    also i am not obsessed by religion. i just got a little last respect to it.
     
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    robjones Notable Member

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    A new thread is unlikely to change the outcome. I dont especially like homosexuality, but I dont think they are deserving of attacks, much less death. If their habits are a problem in Gods eyes, I'll let Him deal with it. That's His job, not mine, not yours, and definitely not any government's.
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    There are a lot of things I don't like, life styles I am not keen on, however as long as you're not hurting anyone, it's consenting adults it should be allowed. It's not up to me to decide what is right for others, nor should it be for anyone else.

    There is only one area I will not back down when it comes to homosexuals, otherwise I for the most part will back them 100%, if I agree with them or not.
     
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    I won't back up towards them, but besides that I support them too..
     
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    #10
    "Ain't nothing wrong, with a little bump and grind." Most homophobes have all sorts of misconceptions about homosexuals such as the whole "they spread disease" thing. You can get VD from straight sex just as easily. "They want to turn everyone gay" like it is contagious or something. If you think man love is amoral that is fine but when your only defense for that view is a blatant falsehood or because such and such book says it is bad so it must be then you really have no defense at all. If you don't like gay people don't talk to them, pretty simple really and no one has to get stoned or hung in the process.
     
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    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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    Oh yeah well I just sucked a big ol' penis today so you can suck mine too buddy! Ha! How do you like that!

    Tomorrow I'm going to put my meat tube in another man's bussoms on top of the Koran! Man I can't wait!
     
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    Grim - Getting a new account and a black avatar doesn't disguise you. We've known all along anyway.
     
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    Holy hell in a handbasket, that is way more information about you than I really needed. Btw pics or it never happened.
     
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    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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    lmfao!!

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    I used to be a big fan of this section, but lately this section has been hijacked by Muslims who want to prove without a shadow of a doubt that their religion is the greatest, their religion is the most peaceful one, their religion is the one that everyone should follow, their prophet is the greatest man to have walked this planet, and most importantly, anyone who disagrees with their religion should be punished. It's getting on my nerves. Can someone do something about it? Or is this section here to stay as a PR forum for Muslims and Islam? :mad:
     
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    You're over-reacting my friend... If you don't like a thread, don't open it. I avoid religious threads altogether, and never criticize other people's religions. It only creates animosity and hatred.
     
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  17. a slave of Allah

    a slave of Allah Peon

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    They were 3 angels who destroy the town, one of them is Gabrial (the holy spirite PBUH). They are slaves for The Holy and His soliders.

    31. .....And none can know the hosts of your Lord but He. And this (Hell) is nothing else than a (warning) reminder to mankind.
     
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    I do not understand why incest is lumped into one category as homosexuality. I guess it is the cultural gap. If anyone is to punish homosexuals, let it be Goh himself. No human should assume the powers of God.
     
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    gauharjk Notable Member

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    Absolutely agree... But there is a missing piece in the puzzle.

    In earlier times (a few hundred years ago), the Emperor of India was called "Image of God" or "Zill-e-Illahi". The reason for this was, the Emperor went around delivering justice, and awarding punishment to people, even death sentences. This was contrary to the belief that only God had the right to take life. God is the giver and taker of life...

    And so, some smart minister came up with the idea, that since, the Emperor was the image of God, his decisions are the same as God's decisions. It was just a way to control people...
     
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    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    IMHO to put it as hijacked by Muslims is too serious a phrase to use. Muslims here are trying their best to give us more insights into their religion. It is nice to know the mindsets of others that are living totally different lifestyles from us. I would say try to learn from each other. It is good to disagree but try not to be too personal on that. We are here to learn from each other.

     
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