Islam,The Religion of Peace: Thread to remove misconceptions!

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by mrfazee, Sep 17, 2008.

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  1. mrfazee

    mrfazee Peon

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    #21
    Mosque Undercover, is a documentary that i have watched it is meant to creat controversy, since the fact is controversy sells! The company that produced it is hard cash productions, the name tells it all. As far as what the people said in it i cannot really say much, if you want to say that you have a problem with Islam you have to prove it with solid proofs which are:

    The Quran without misquoting it.
    The Hadeeth, when it comes to hadeeth there is a margin of error since some may be fabricated, but if you can get it from any of these books then i am more then ready to answer:
    The books are:

    Saheeh-Bookhari
    Saheeh-Muslim
    Sunan-Abu-Dawood
    At-tirmidhi
     
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    #22
    Well bugger me sideways. *cough* *splutter* So Britain isn't civilised then?

    Let me quote you.

    You really live in lala land.
     
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    #23
    I am asking in reference to Islam. I am not condoning or condeming. I am just asking in regards to the previous reply.

     
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    contentedge Active Member

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    #24

    You don't seem to understand my point at all. Even if the Quran is absolutely infallible, its followers need to interpret it the right way. If not, it's of no use.
    What is Islam without Muslims? And if a large section of Muslims misinterpret the Quran and do awful things, shouldn't you, the learned Muslim, condemn them and try to bring them to the right path? Instead, you keep on saying that the Quran is a noble book, etc, etc. Do you get my point?
     
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    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    #25
    Yes I know you are referring to the previous post and with reference to Islam, but I am very shock and disturbed to read that. I would strongly disagree with the killing of humans just because they are homosexual. I would say I am condemning such practices if they occur.

     
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    #26
    What about abortions? Is abortions in Islam or does a person receiving an abortion get the death penalty?
     
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    #27
    We didn't turn a blind eye to the terrorist bombings perpetrated in the name of your cause either cormac. The thing about the English is they rarely buckle to intimidation, So a sure fire way of ensuring you never get your way is to kill our children. Like i said, The trouble with making your own bed is that you eventually have to sleep in it, And it seems your bed was made poorly, which will make for an uncomfortable sleep.

    They didn't make up what the imams were tecahing mrfazee. so if what they were teaching was in contradiction to "real" islamic teachings your gripe should be with them, Not those highlighting it.
     
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    #28
    I know how you feel thanks for your reply. I was asking mrfazee "Should all homosexuals be killed or just Islamic homosexuals? "

    He posted
     
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    #29
    personally i feel we should respect all religions

    what ever controversey it is not arises because of islam it is arising because of people who think negative.

    So fault is ours , we allways discuss negative things ,Please discuss positive things about any religion

    Regards

    Alex
     
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    #30
    It is great to discuss positive or negative things, the most important is that we approach the subject with as less prejudiced and preconceived ideas about them.

    For eg in the discussion of homosexuals being killed, it was done in a rational manner, I do not see anything wrong with that. In fact bringing up the negative things for discussion helps each other to understand the how, why, what aspects of the things we consider negative and further our understanding of the religion concerned.

     
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    #31
    My cause? Are you getting your threads mixed up again stOx?
     
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    #32
    the bolded text from your quote is absolutely untrue..."large section" makes it sound like the majority of muslims and this is completely false...
     
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    #33
    How is it untrue and completely false?
     
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    #34
    Wait a minute... we can kill 'em if it's done in a rational manner? Who's gonna sing show tunes?! :D
     
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    #35
    If you have to be a good person to be a muslim, why do all these radicals call themselves muslims. Couldn't you excommunicate them or something.

    So if i randomly criticize myself without any proof or facts, my greatness is affirmed! Seems a flawed way of thinking to me. Islam has it's good points and bad points as does any other religion.

    Thank you too.
     
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    #36
    i spent 3 years living in Lybia and Egypt and i have spent several months in turkey and iran and have traveled numerous times to marocco,algeria,tunisia and also to indonesia (this is granted not a typical muslim country)...i enjoy talks about the US gov and its politics and i was astonished at how peaceful most (when i say most i mean 99%) muslims really are...i feel sorry for the islamic people who are being unjustly targeted as terrorists and haters when they are in fact good decent people who would rather get on with their life...

    his claim that muslims "largley" misenterpret the quran is completely false...its not a majority its not even a significant minority...i presented myself as a christian (even though im a non believer) just to see their "reaction" to it...they like to chat and drink tea this is what i first associate with the word muslim...
     
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    #37

    May be not a large section of them. I didn't mean to put it that way. But even if just 10% of Muslims are radicalized, that numbers up to tens of millions of them. Isn't it the responsibility of the rest of the moderate Muslims to kick them out of their religion or try to bring them back to the right path?
     
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    #38
    On what grounds? By virtue that it is a religion? Religion isn't entitled to "respect" just because it's a religion. If the religion promotes, causes or is a catalyst for antisocial or inhumane behavior it should be criticised. If it promotes, causes, or is a catalyst for idiocy then it should be ridiculed.

    it's about time we stopped thinking religions are inherently worthy of respect and about time we started calling a spade a spade.

    Any belief without reason should be inherently disrespected unless it can prove it's worthy of anything else.
     
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    #39
    Right on. I have no right to demand people to respect my secret cult religion "Hackeranity" that hacks into computers and steals candies from little children on the base that it is a religion. If a religion does good things and breeds good people, people will automatically respect it.
     
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    #40
    Spot on. This happens a lot these days. Any stupid moron can do some godawful shit in the name of religion and get away with that. They should be kicked in the nuts.
     
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