NoBama - your mother should have taugh you better.

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by stock_post, Sep 10, 2008.

  1. scfc16

    scfc16 Banned

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    #41
    The media is always looking to hate on people Obama is nothing but a victim from the media. If it wasnt for his colour then they wouldnt be attacking the poor guy.
     
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  2. northpointaiki

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    #42
    I don't accept that, particularly when the media has, in its time, loved Obama.

    The media loves whatever feeds the salacious taste for more media. Right now, this is a meaningless controversy, and sells news. In its time, the media chomped on Clinton when she was ahead in the primary, and Obama, when he became top dog. It purports to give a damn about Sarah Palin and her pregnant daughter, because it sells.

    The only thing that matters to the media is more media.
     
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  3. PHPGator

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    #43
    If anything, Obama will be taken up for by the media. There is no doubt that there is a liberal majority within the media. In reality though, I don't think this is that big of an issue for the vast majority of voters.

    I just find it ironic that the Democrats are quick to dismiss it as a "coincidence" and/or "misunderstanding".
     
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  4. csroster

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    #44
    I think this is just the usual 'Obama is the anti-christ' drivel. Where anything he says is turned around into something about murdering babies, or admitting he's a Muslim to calling working mothers pigs.

    While I do personally think that the remark played off of Palin's self-description in her speech, it's not the same as 'calling her a pig.'

    As when Palin called herself a pitbull with lipstick, she's not calling herself a bitch (female dog), it's just clever word play let it go.
     
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  5. jkjazz

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    #45
    Really, you don't see it at all? I'm surprised. There are actually times when you seem to see both sides with perfect clarity.

    All you've got is a bunch of references that McCain said it before so now the Obamessiah gets a free pass?

    At the very least, don't you think it was stupid to say, given the nature of "he said, she said" politics?
     
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  6. ST12

    ST12 Active Member

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    #46
    It is always OK when republicans use the words "lipstick on a pig" in their speaches. And always a derogatory and insulting remark if used by the dems.

    The Bush has been running this great country like a drunk driver now is obvious even to the hard core cons.
    I don't know why they are selling the same old version of Bush policies with a title name change only as a new and different?
    Talking about change where is the difference between McCain and Bush? You can't change things if you just add a woman in your staff.

    If McCain is so good why the need to lie in their ads? Maybe they count on the votes of the stupid, the ignorant and the morons. They indeed they succeed getting those when Bush was running. I do hope this time those guys learned their expensive lesson.
     
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  7. jkjazz

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    #47
    Well see, there you go. Thank you for clearing this up for me.

    That's what we need; Better definition of our campaign rules.

    Thanks
     
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  8. homebizseo

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    #48
    Obama has a free pass to use racial slurs and sexiest remarks.
     
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  9. northpointaiki

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    #49
    Jazz, yes, I do try to understand all sides of an argument. That doesn't mean I agree with all sides. In this instance, it's pretty much a zero-sum game. You either accept his comment was made in its customary usage,*** or you believe it was an attack on the gender of Sarah Palin.

    I will say it again: I find it curious that John McCain makes a direct reference to Hillary Clinton with his comment, yet Barack Obama made a reference to the McCain ticket's policies, in direct reference to the Bush years. Yet people continue to attempt saying McCain's comment was a usage as it is universally understood, in the context of a comment on Hillary Clinton's healthcare policy, yet Obama's was somehow a personal attack on Sarah Palin, a kind of high school personal "tee hee" removed from a comment on, well, what he said it was, the notion of the McCain ticket as "agents of change."

    Also, curious - but while we're protecting the virtue of Sarah Palin, anyone going to comment on her calling Obama a traitor to the United States during her speech to the RNC?

    The only pass being given here, based on an honest appraisal of the merits, is to the double standard, tossing the highest mass volume of dogshit on the candidacy of a standing party nominee in U.S. electoral history, while crying foul over nonsense.

    ***- it isn't clear to me that you looked at any of the links I provided, if this is what you meant by "bunch of references," because none of them refer to McCain's comment. They are simply a random selection of sites headlining the term, in the way it is always intended - the pastiche of something, on top of something else that isn't as savory.
     
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  10. northpointaiki

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    #50
    The eternal question: please provide an example of a racial slur made by Obama. Please provide an example of any of your ridiculous assertions like this.

    Also, not that I'm interested really, but as you said you and Obama, well:

    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=9156439&postcount=81

    Care to explain what you seem fascinated by as his "sexiest remarks?"
     
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    #51
    maybe pizza Rove can shed some lite on it for you guys
     
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    stock_post Prominent Member

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    #52
    Hi Pizza Man, what kind of pizza are you eating?
     
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    #53
    Hey, don't drag pizza into all this. :mad:
    [The food i mean, not the user]
     
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    stock_post Prominent Member

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    #54
    Man to be frank that pizza though made me search for food - Thank god I had a banana in my lunch bag.

    Otherwise I would have gone and bought some sugar food - too fat to add more sugar to my body.
     
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  15. jkjazz

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    #55
    Nope, I can't agree with you today.

    I know that you seem to be curious about a lot of things, but you are missing a couple of details.

    1) "lipstick" is in the news. "lipstick" is fresh in the mind of most Americans. SP referred to heself using the term "lipstick"
    2) "lipstick on a pig" is used seven days later by Obama in reference to the McCain / Palin campaign.

    This was just a thinly vieled slap as SP. Easily denyable.

    How did this get past Obama's inner circle? You keep refering to McCain's use of the phrase agains Hillary but you chose to ignore my statements that:

    "On one hand, I can see that Obama didn't accuse SP of being a pig. This is exactly what his speech writer had planned. Any of you that think that his speech writer made a mistake, think again. This speech was reviewed and blessed by each of his strategists before it was ever given to his teleprompter guy."

    AND

    "At the very least, don't you think it was stupid to say, given the nature of "he said, she said" politics?"

    Ridiculous? No. Calculated and easily denyable.
     
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    #56
    :D I like your political view point. lol
     
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    #57
    banana how appropriate
     
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    #58
    Yep you have solid proof that it must be the evil intent. I give passes on both sides when you can not know the intent, glad to see the extreme liberal left will never give a pass 'all the while' the right pisses and moans 'you don't know it was meant that way' but now here we are and the right is off to create their own facts.

    Speaking of 'being in the news' I know I personally without even thinking use certain words simply because they are in the news 'heard recently', words I normally use on occasion, but often will use them more often simply because I recently heard them.

    My damn brain must have ulterior motives, thank you right wingers for showing me the way!

    :rolleyes:
     
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  19. northpointaiki

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    #59
    Yes, this is how you see it. I disagree, and have shown why, with details as to my conclusions - mostly, surrounding the context of his speech, and its comments on the failed policies of the last 8 years. This is the classic usage for the term, but you will not agree, which is your right.

    Now, any reason why you, or any other Palin supporter, isn't dealing with her essentially calling Obama a traitor, at the RNC?
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #60
    Don't you know it's easier to sweep under the rug, and of course rules do not apply to both sides ;)

    Both sides suck, why wont people realize this..
     
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