Obama lived in Indonesia as a child, from 1967 to 1971, with his mother and stepfather and has acknowledged attending a Muslim school http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/22/obama.madrassa/
I am god. I admit that i am a god. Now who's gonna worship me? Now if i admit something believable, some people will believe it regardless of whether it's the truth, while others will doubt it. In the end, people are mostly inclined towards believing what they WANT to believe and often they will pounce on whatever lends validity to their belief. The issue at hand, a verbal slip-up doesn't prove anything at all.
Holy hell. Is there a shred of thought left, among certain sectors terrified of this guy? OBAMA FINALLY ADMITS HE'S A MUSLIM! RUNNNNNNNNN! RUNNNNNNNNNNN! OP, and anyone else still lost in the terror that Obama is a secret Muslim, and, more, that he is hell-bent on destroying the U.S., let me translate for you: Literal: Obama: "While it's true he (John McCain) hasn't talked about my Muslim faith..." Stephanopoulos: "Christian faith..." Obama: "Christian faith...well, what I'm saying is he hasn't suggested that I'm ... Stephanopoulos: "Connections, right..." Obama: "a Muslim...." Now, George Stephanopoulos may have the capacity of a flea, as his co-hosting the ABC debate showed, and may otherwise be tittering with glee over such a moronic line of smear, but anybody with an ounce of sense should have been able to see the truth. Apparently not. Here, allow a translation... Obama: "while it's true that John McCain himself hasn't smeared me as to my faith...." Can we all sleep better now?
Just curious, but is this ever going to end, Bogart? From the link you provide: (your excerpt was missing a comma, and "but an aide said it was not a madrassa." More: We long ago, and repeatedly, dealt with this. By your own admission, your allegations that Obama has "close ties to the Nation of Islam" come from a verifiable nut-job, Debbie Schlussel, who, much like the "Palin-sambo" rumormonger, sources....nobody: "A former insider;" "condition of anonymity," and so forth. Months ago, when you first posted this, I must admit I only read Schlussel's pseudo-journalistic article, not the comments. Among them, I find this priceless: And Schlussel's coming-unglued-response. People may recall that this gem was the person who immediately responded to the Virginia Tech shooting by noting that as the shooter was allegedly of asian descent, he was "likely a Paki." Her original article is here - please note she, uh, amended the story, by gulping it back into her paranoid craw. Months of this, and...Obama is still here, still running, and still winning. I'd say, "move on" might be a good notion, wouldn't you?
First i'm so angry as what i know is most of american people are Cultured people and i was really really surprised when i read this topic !!!! no Cultured man can say that !!!! Second I Am Muslim Arabic My question is why why why do you think that arab are terrorists ? as i said i'm muslim and arabic but i'm not with killing innocent people also my religion (Islam) which i'm proud with it Never Never Tell us to kill innocent people but tell me Peace and to respect all religions Just There Is misunderstand to Islam from few muslims and other muslims what i want you to know is that as there is bad people in arabic countries also there are bad people in usa and in every where in all over the world there is good and bad people so we can't say all arab are terrorists . Please Think in what i told you .
Not all believe as some believe, Moorafun. Ignorance comes from all places, and the only way to fight it, is a difficult path - it requires one faces one's fears, and seeks out the source of fear to learn. In my case, after 9/11, I, too, harbored ugly feelings in my chest towards Muslims, generally, and in this, I was no better than any of the people who looked on favor towards the imprisonment of Japanese-Americans following Pearl Harbor. It took work to climb out of my ignorance. The only way out, I sincerely believe this, is for all of us to seek out the other with a compassionate and engaged heart.
I believe it was taken out of context. Even if he is a Muslim, I could care less. He won't do any better or worse than any christian president ever has.
It wasn't even taken out of context, in my opinion. To say he "outed himself as a Muslim" is a complete fabrication. What Obama said, by any reasonable interpretation, is that "while John McCain himself hasn't played the smear campaign questioning my faith...." I agree with you on the rest. We live in a land, supposedly, where there is to be no religious test for the holding of office. Many people seem to forget this very key tenet of our country's founding, and framework.
I'm personally not going to make this out to be a huge issue because I know that it was just a slip up. However, you know the Democrats would have a field day with Palin if she said she was pro-choice, or if McCain said he liked war.
PHP, and others, maybe I'm not seeing what you're seeing. I watched the video. By my read of it, this wasn't a slip up, this was a statement affirming that Obama doesn't believe it is McCain personally who was smearing Obama on his faith. In other words, the words "Muslim faith" is the smear, and he was saying, I don't think it is John McCain himself doing this, but others (such as the crap job Fox News did in sponsoring this smear to begin with). The only slip up was made by Stephanopoulos, who was too stupid to understand what Obama was saying - Obama quickly disabused him of his idiocy, and Stephanopoulos quickly did a kind of "oh, yeah," as the above transcript excerpt clearly shows. To take your Palin example, let's take the alleged racist name calling of Obama that she is reported to have said. The equivalent would have been if she said "I don't think it is Obama himself who has claimed my calling him a [racist term], but lower echelon works from his campaign." And the equivalent spillout would be "PALIN ADMITS SHE CALLED OBAMA A RACIST TERM!!!!!!!!!!" This is why I find this thing the most stupid thing to come down the pike in a long time. Absolutely moronic.
Ahhh, i c. I can't watch video, it is blocked by ports here at work. I just assumed from briefly reading the article that it was just an accidental error in speech. Either way, I agree with you, it really shouldn't be viewed as anything big.
Do you realize how ironic this is? The article is about how people like you are trying to twist the facts to spread false rumors about Obama and... here you are spreading false rumors about Obama. I weep for the future of the country. Please start thinking.
My daughter just graduated with a language degree and one of her languages is Arabic. She took out time during two different semesters to live with Arab families (once in Oman, once in Ahman Jordan) for the purpose of language immersion and to learn idioms as well as learn local culture. She had nothing but good to say about the people and the culture. There are of course idiots in ANY culture and there are some folks she avoided there for the same reason she would here... but basically that speaks to our sameness rather than our differences. She spoke of committed families there, people that value integrity, people with a lot of generosity in their hearts even if in meager circumstances. She spoke of a beautiful country steeped in tradition. Bottom line, it's a tricky thing to have radical Muslim terrorists declare war on you and vice versa without letting it affect your view of ALL Muslims... but it is something we must do. The same problem occurs here on a lesser scale when people attribute the worst case examples of the Christian right and assume it represents the views of all Christians, or all Republicans. I've never bombed an abortion clinic or picked a fight with a Telletubbie, nor do I actually know anybody that would, but such are the sins I am automatically guilty of when I say I'm a Republican, according to some. Over-generalization can cause a lotta problems. That said ~ thank you for sharing. ~ rj
The citizens of the US have the same concern. It amazing that obama has no qualification other than being a born a US citizen. The blind sheep are following him.
And the 17,535,458 former American citizens who have already voted for him will form their own country, of course, on Obama's ascendancy to the Emir position, before launching his jihad against his erstwhile countrymen.
You are not the fist person that thought of this. I am more concerned with his pro war stance to Pakistan and Iran.