So Sarah Palin failed in her family responsibilities, but now they tell us

I don't mind discussing it as long as you come to the conclusion that it really has no reflection on her ability to parent. I don't mind you criticizing her stance for sex education, but this situation is by no means "proof" that it does or doesn't work. Personally, i'm in favor of sex education in schools as long as it is done properly.

Lets be honest though, her daughter certainly knew what the consequences of sex were. No one in today's day and age is that naive at the age of 17. She knew she was making a poor decision when she did it, but at that age, you don't care. At age 17, you think you know everything about life and that you will never be included in any form of negative statistic. Her poor decision making against the advice that she had likely heard all her life should be no reflection on Palin's parenting.

 

obviously the daughter did not know enough. Why is she not responsible. she is responsible if her daughter drinks, if she gets pregnant or whatever other crap she does. she is underage and the parents are responsible for her actions. On top of that to bring the two of them to the convention and set an example that it is acceptable for her to be pregnant just pisses on all the family values that any person wants to present to his/her child.republican family values seem to belong to garbage as far as you and mccain is concerned.
lets talk about underage drinking.
did she supervise her kid at all? how is it that she did not know that she drinks? if she knew then why didn't she stop her? did she drive her to his house? did she check if there is a grown up present?it seems that her daughter is an out of control teenager. it also seems that either she was incapable of controlling and educating her or she neglected it, and that certainly effects her standing as good parents.
if not then what would. It seems that the result are meaningless to some people and they are just happy to hear the same BS rhetoric.

 

Do you point out the meaning behind the letter "A" as well? Make sure she knows who is a sinner and who isn't.

 

Let me ask you again, did you ever do anything against your parents advice? Does this make them bad parents as well?

 

it seems to me that you do not understand the diffrence between drinking at 16/17 and getting pregnant with the regular every day situation. I bet she also cut class.
do you support underage drinking?
do you support having unprotected sex at 16/17. how old was she when she told her parents that she is having sex?
these are pretty serious issues. she should have asked help to deal with her delinquent daughter.
do you think bringing the two of them to the convention was a good idea? why?

 

You are soooo clueless. Talking to you does no good. You have all the answers, yet you have no children so your words have no basis in reality. The parents on this board keep telling you that no matter waht you teach your children, it is still up to the child to choose his or her own way in life.

Remember this post?

You did not reply.

Since you won't listen to us, here is a nice quote from USA Today. Looks like our sex education classes don't work either. Must be bad teachers.

"Sex education may not have the influence that many assume in averting teen pregnancy, suggest new international data that find U.S. teens have babies at much higher rates than peers in many countries, regardless of the sex education received in those countries."

Source

No one is saying that teenage pregnancy is a good thing, all we are trying to tell you is that it is not the parent's fault.

 

Again, did you ever do anything against your parents advice? Does this make them bad parents?

You seem very reluctant to answer because you know that your logic is flawed.

Just so you know, no, I do not support having sex before marriage at all, regardless of how much protection is used or what age. Nor do I support drinking at a young age either.

 

your argument is pretty stupid. you say that since a lot of kids have babies while in high school it makes it ok. there is no doubt that we are facing a big problem in this regard. and the parents are failing the children. She might be one of the many but she is one of the many failures. not everyone's children get pregnant at 17. their parents represent success and hers is failure

what is your excuse for the republicans having the girl's baby daddy in their convention.
here is also something on sex ed
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/03/080319151225.htm

 

You are not even bright enough to read. It does no good to respond to your drivel as you don't even pay attention. You are a mouth running on automatic with no brain connected.

I can't waste anymore time on you. You've been hit too many times with the stupid stick.

 

you do not have to answer.
you have no valid argument at all and that is why you get aggravated. how can you support something that you believe is wrong?
if the pregnancy at her age is wrong then she has failed what part of this you do not accept?
also the republican party supports the teenage pregnancy by having the baby daddy there.
how can youy explain that without being a hypocrite. lool
party of family value has A BABBY DADDY to look up to now.


did you know that she had her first child only 8 months after marriage.

 

Wait - Sarah Palin's daughter is pregnant?

Oh, right. WHO GIVES A DAMN!?

Talk about Palin's thirst for federal earmarks, to the tune of $27 million or so, while mayor of a town of 6,500; of her being for a $200 million federal earmark bridge project, getting her into office, then becoming the caped crusader against earmarks - except that she pocketed the $200 million, and continues to have a state highest in the nation for federal pork per capita; talk about her opposition to a woman's choice on abortion, even in cases of rape; talk about her support for state law defining marriage to be between a man and a woman; talk about anything, for chrissakes, but drop the damn pregnant daughter.

I'm not a fan of Palin. But the fact of her daughter carrying the pregnancy to term, the guy set to marry her, and the two of them being present at the RNC is, if we all slow down a bit, simply in line with Palin's views on the matter. There is no logical, nor no moral disconnect. Her daughter is her family, the guy is her daughter's fiance, and both were there while they're mom made a speech. Enough. No news here.

 

She is great at flushing out corruption. She cleaned out the fat from Alaska. What has _________ done to flush out corruption?

 

She's great at flushing, I'll grant you that.

Her speech was testament to that, when she claimed she told congress "thanks but not thanks" on the Bridge to Nowhere - ignoring that pesky little fact she supported it, took the money, and ran with the dough on other pet projects.

Given that Alaska still leads the nation on federal pork per capita, I guess her citizen's diet must be lean leg cuts, over shoulder loin - given that she has "cleaned the fat from Alaska."

Can we expect the new ad campaign to read: "Palin: Come flush with me" ?

 

Republican party seems to be centered on a family values. They are the one that try to force their religious belief on others and that includes her. I am trying to hold her to their own standard.
they invite the baby daddy to their convention. This is very important point because it shows their hypocrisy. they preach abstinence and yet support her pregnancy. how are they explaining this to their children?

they all are in opposition to gay marriage, abortion and a host of other things. there is no point in talking about those things with them.
oh just a reminder that it seems VP daughter is exempt from republican family value.

 

I will agree with most of the TV announcers that she gave better speeches than McCain and their Democratic counterparts.


The hockey quote will be remembered forever.

 

hockey mom driving the hockey van and taking the hockey daughter to meet her hockey baby daddy.
very hard to forget. Oh do not forget the hockey party that serves alcohol to underage hockey girls and boys.
did she serve alcohol to them in their hockey house? is it illegal to serve alcohol to minors in hockey Alaska?

 

Yeah, because cons want to be in office for another term, we have to accept everything that comes from them
as a piece of cake.

 

It's a subtle thing you're missing, Pizza. It is standard to include the notion of redemption inside that religious belief. The guy is making "amends," so to speak, and their including him in the family photo ops is consistent.

Not that I buy it - I don't, I have no confidence this girl was given the freedom of an informed choice, and all the rest; I personally predict a massive reaction formation on the part of the daughter anywhere from 5-10 years from now.

But unless it comes out the dad is gay, or the daughter secretly had an abortion, paid for by Sarah Palin herself, then there isn't any news here; as it stands, it's all consistent, and it's time to quit speculating on subterranean motives inside the Palin family.

 

Not sure which ethereal group, the "most of the TV announcers" you listen to, but in my hearing of it, it was as snide as the school snot-queen talking to her cadre at the homecoming, minus the snapping cherry-gum. The antithesis of statesmanship. I guess if one is into the former sort of thing, she hit a home run. If one was hoping for a voice to rise above the rubble of recent history, and unite the country behind the ticket, well, just a bit shy.

 

you feel like that because you are not a republican.
republican family values does not jive with these things that has been going on in that family. The republican party celebrated the baby daddy that is just too rich to let go.
forcing them to marry is another big mistake and probably will result in a big damage to both of them. also what is holding them back? i bet you he will never marry her. she probably was just a piece of a-- to him.
did you see how the eldest son did not want to stand up when every one else did.
also did you see how the father handed the little baby to their little girl. nobody else wanted to deal with the baby. they left her to the little girl.