how Adsense consider invalid clicks

Discussion in 'Guidelines / Compliance' started by Jalpari, Sep 7, 2008.

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    How adsense count a click as invalid? (If user click an adsense ads too many time and didn't visit the page)
     
    Jalpari, Sep 7, 2008 IP
  2. Fka200

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    Only Google knows the "real" way. As for our educated guesses, it would be a combination of things: how the user lands on the page, number of clicks, bounce rate, etc.
     
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    Well Google does not disclose their "SECRET" Algorithms on how they detect Fraud clicks..But they surely catch people who do it...
     
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    Google consider ip address for click in adsense. Ip address must be different for different ad click.
     
    Vidya, Sep 7, 2008 IP
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    Yes IP is one of their considerations and bounce rate is also but there are many more ways they detect invalid clicks, and guessing at them wont help LOL :)
     
    Carnyboy, Sep 7, 2008 IP
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    I have recently heard that IP address is not the only thing they check. Its a lot of things like :

    1) A site is opened directly on a computer and ads are clicked right away.
    2) From a particular PC or IP only one sites ads are being clicked
    3) Ads are clicked regularly and resulting pages are not seen for a longer time

    and a lot more... They have a very vast system to check invalid clicks.


    If they don't get all these things checked its very much possible for me to just visit as many cyber cafes as I can ( different IP ) in a day all over the city and click my own ads, its easy money isn't it?

    Thanks
     
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  7. Jalpari

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    so what if user has static ip and he is regular user.
     
    Jalpari, Sep 8, 2008 IP
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    No one tell you the real methods but if any site start getting clicks from same ip again and again than that is considered as invalid click . Their are many other questions like what if i use proxy and blah blah blah but answers are only know by google .Their must be one special team for tracking web and read data that what users thinking in their mind and planing to try .
     
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    Noone will tell for sure how google tracks invalid clicks, but they track it very good. I think they look on IP, user agent, behavior on the site, and many other things. Do not try to cheat google it will not work.
     
    xron, Sep 8, 2008 IP
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    These are some reasons which I have come to know.
    1) There are certain time limit for the ads to remain open with scrolling and page viewing before it is counted as paid click
    2) Time lag between repeated clicks and whether they are from the same IP
     
    lycos, Sep 8, 2008 IP
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    when some whn clik on ad and tehn close the page and did not vist the page
     
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    and also those clicks which are giving by the same ip address
     
    bamboo85, Sep 8, 2008 IP
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    And also a lot of this process is automated also. So in google's internal reports your site will get a flag if any of these activity happens...
     
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    Google has record of each user where he came and how ? From search engine,directly or referral.

    If he has static IP address and will click on one website Adsense regularly then clicks will be considered as invalid.

     
    sturatm, Sep 8, 2008 IP
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    Google detect the invalid clik thru this way. i think so.....

    IP
    Method of clicking
    detecting the time
    any edit in the code
    refresh the pages many times etc.....
     
    stagold, Sep 9, 2008 IP
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    refreshing the page many times is not the criteria for google ( untill and unless you do it thousands of times in a day ). A webmaster working on his own site have to refresh it many times ... even upto 100 times in a day.. google knows this very well
     
    xcesslogic, Sep 9, 2008 IP
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    If one IP try to click multiple times ( especially proxys ), if too much click happen in 2short time +++
     
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    Do you think that (or know if) they utilize the Google cookies for this purpose as well?
    But anyway I am pretty much sure that they combine as many information as possible to detect fraudulent clicks. Just try to think what you would do if you were them.
    I am pretty much sure they categorize the sites and compare the click rates of similiar sites and check for unusual click rates. Also they have so much data from their Google Analytics. Generally they have so much data about how user use the internet, they can use statistical functions to determine if something "unusual" is going on.
    Also ads are displayed on multiple sites. So again there is a chance to compare clicks for the same ad on different sites. If one ad receives unusual high clicks on one particular site I would flag that site for further investigation.
    I think it is only reasonable to try to think their way. If you ask yourself what you would do to detect fraudulent clicks, you can be pretty much sure they are already doing it.
     
    Kato, Sep 13, 2008 IP
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    Hi Kato, good understanding there. Google can just compare performance of CTRs of same ads in different sites...i never thought of that.
     
    kingfisher74, Oct 2, 2008 IP