Google is tracking all of our activities (iam worried)

Discussion in 'Google' started by link_dev, Sep 7, 2008.

  1. drhowarddrfine

    drhowarddrfine Peon

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    #21
    There's a Google guy on every street corner, watching us with binoculars, all our coming and going. They know your every move. They have people who report to them every day.

    Don't believe me? Go to your nearest street corner house and knock on their door. Just ask them, "What are you doing?" and see how they try to cover up their activities with answers like, "What do you mean?" Always trying to pump us for information about our personal thoughts.

    Who do you think those two guys walking down the street in white shirts and ties are doing when they knock on each individuals's door every so often? They say they're Mormons but now you know better.
     
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  2. Claymation

    Claymation Peon

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    #22
    Geo-targeting based on IP happens all the time.
    I've got pages that will show different ads to different people based on country, locale....you name it.
    Google is better at it than the rest of us, that isn't news.

    Heck, I even earned a good deal of money from a plug-in that detected people that were not signed up to Firefox and would not let them view the page until they did.
    Of course, there was affiliate income for each click.

    As for email addresses, that isn't likely.
    Has anyone read the entire catalog of Google TOS agreements?
    I wouldn't understand every nugget of legalize if I had to.
    If you agreed to let them do basically whatever they please, there isn't much we can say about it.
     
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  3. mintoj

    mintoj Peon

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    #23
    And don't forget to check the postboxes, and bins, cause they often hide in there too! The tell tale sign is a stiff mouse finger!
     
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  4. link_dev

    link_dev Peon

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    #24
    Claymation: I have talked about Yahoo, when i mentioned email. May be we need to look at Yahoo's TOS.

    Geo-Targetting is not new, but packaging the data they collected differently to sell it marketers is evolving.

    ONe such packaging may be something like below.

    An advertiiser may have his campaign like, pay per click for the first time for some IP address. Later on sell the same advrt impressions for few more days.

    This way advertisor spends large amount of monet on the first click and little on page impressions that follow.

    link dev
     
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  5. mintoj

    mintoj Peon

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    #25
    Geo-targeting is NOT targeting individuals which is what you are talking about. They know which geographic location you reside based on IP but they know nothing about the individual unless they store data in a cookie.
     
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  6. link_dev

    link_dev Peon

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    #26
    Not sure, if you are also following my every post and responding too.
    IN my post, i didn't give you a definition of Geo-targetting. Also, my response didn't mean Geo-Targetting. Please read it again.
    I do know what Geo_targetting means.
    Thanks
     
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  7. mintoj

    mintoj Peon

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    #27
    Your post was about individual targeting right? That can only be achived through cookies (not IP addresses). Only the Service Provider knows which IP is allocated to any person at any time. Most IP's are dynamically allocated (as I stated earlier) so the IP anyone has can change.

    The Search Engines do not know which individual holds an IP address or the individuals details. It can only track individual activities this through cookies.

    It seems you are trying to alert people through ignorance!
     
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  8. link_dev

    link_dev Peon

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    #28
    You are trying to make a connection between what iam trying to say to what other responder made on this forum trail. Don't make conclusions based on your attempted connections between two member posts.

    First you blamed me on promoting my Signature links(you have 3 signature links) and now on my ignorance. I will give you a detailed response on tracking later.
    Hope you get time to brush your basics till that time.
    Thanks

     
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  9. link_dev

    link_dev Peon

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    #29
    Before logging out, Let me ask you a question.
    How does google track, if you are clicking on your own website's google advrts?
    What kind of information will it need to pin you down and ban your google adsense advrts account?
    Thanks

     
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  10. theredgiant

    theredgiant Well-Known Member

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    #30
    Interesting read. Even if google is tracking your surfing habit and spamming you, you have nothing to worry about, since it isn't like somebody on Google is tracking you personally. It's all automated. No single person on Google or any where in this universe knows that you searched for viagra in google. It's just a record in a file and there are billions of such records on google's HDD. Nobody goes through this data personally. After a few weeks or so these records will be purged or expired and nobody will ever know what you did.
     
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  11. mintoj

    mintoj Peon

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    #31
    It uses cookies! And know who you are because there is an AdSence cookie!

    Here is a video that explains all about it... Including the third party cookies you have been experiencing...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfZLztx8cKI
     
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  12. Resident79

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    #32
    True. Google does not judge moraly on me if I buy Viagra or a certain website. They just want to make money, by offering the "perfect" products to me.

    But who tells me, that in some time not anybody might be able to buy these data? My boss, the state, my ex-girlfriend...

    edit: and if not buy then maybe steal...
     
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  13. movvadinesh

    movvadinesh Well-Known Member

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    #33
    Does using live.com solve this problem because,
    I heard that its ervices are not good but Microsoft protects our privacy.
     
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  14. Abhik

    Abhik ..:: The ONE ::..

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    #34
    Delete the cookies from Google and see if anything changes..
     
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    #35
    I had the same experience when I was shopping for a new car. I did a bunch of google searches for different types of cars. For about the next 3 days any site I went to that had adsense on it showed me car ads...even if the site was about dog parks.
     
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    #36
    I believe google changed their policy sometime back that after 18 months data becomes anonymous. So you are only being tracked for 18 months. :)
     
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  17. drhowarddrfine

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    #37
    What?! They don't do that anymore!!! Are you crazy? There are far more sewers you can watch out of than postoffices and bins! Give them a little credit! Nobody else here is.
     
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  18. farley

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    #38
    Actually that's not too far from the truth. Google's satellites capture much, much more information than they show on Google Earth/Google Maps. They have near-real-time satellite images available, and I have not heard resolution specifics on them, but some satellite cameras can easily resolve down to an inch. Yes, that means if you tossed out a cigarette butt, they could read the brand.

    They do let some people/groups access this data. For instance in the recent Santa Cruz fire, a resident was quoted on the news as looking at Google data to see what happened to his house in the fire. And they give data for free to a remote Amazon tribe so the tribe can monitor unauthorized mining, logging, poaching.
     
    farley, Sep 7, 2008 IP