The Sarah Palin Thread

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by stOx, Aug 31, 2008.

  1. hmansfield

    hmansfield Guest

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    #301
    Get real. You know what I mean. Plain and simple I am not trusting a woman (or man) with a 2 year technical degree,( that it took her 5 years to get, from 3 different colleges) with the intricacies of understanding a global economy, and nuclear weapons, to be second in command.

    You idealist that hate Obama , for what ever reason, can do what you wish but I live in the real world.

    If Mccain had chosen differently, at his age, I might feel differently, I actually like the guy...but he didn't and I am not taking the chance.

    Bush is not an idiot, he just had his own agenda, and unfortunately, the rest of us weren't in it.
     
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  2. homebizseo

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    #302
    I don't think Bill Gates has a degree. Do you trust him and his software?
     
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  3. pizzaman

    pizzaman Active Member

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    #303
    she is :D and she brought the guy that knocked her up to the convention. setting a good example for all the children.
    bad judgment on the part of the republican party.
     
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  4. homebizseo

    homebizseo Peon

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    #304
    I think Obama has said himself that men need to take responsibility when they get a women pregnant. Would you like it better if the boyfriend abandon the daughter and was a deadbeat?
     
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  5. pizzaman

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    #305
    i did not criticize the young man. i criticized the party and palin for in effect defending and exemplifying underage drinking, sex and pregnancy in front of all the children that were watching . also obama do not tell me what to say.
     
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  6. robjones

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    #306
    Pizzaman - I understand the post is intended to anger me, but actually it just provides a nice visual aid as to why guys like LogicFlux who stick to facts and issues can't gain traction in an election year where displeasure with the current administration *should* have made a win by *anyone* running for the other party a fait accompli.

    Instead we have a dead heat.
     
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  7. pizzaman

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    #307
    you think very highly of yourself.
    yes the main problem is that it is a party of fools and crooks now, go fix it and come back in three to four years. there is no reason for any one to vote for a second class candidate that has sold out to the stupid wing of the party.
    Also it is not close Obama plays smart take a look at this
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obama_vs_mccain/
     
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  8. homebizseo

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    #308
    Are you saying people are smarter in the red states?
     
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  9. pizzaman

    pizzaman Active Member

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    #309
    i said that the republicans are the party of the fools and crooks. even the party accepts that they have lost their way. even republicans want change. They just fail to accept that their party is totally incapable at this time to offer any real change or do anything successfully.
     
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  10. homebizseo

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    #310
    That the funniest nonsense I have read in a long time. That is as funny as saying Obama is ready to be President with one year worth of experience.


    BTW - I do think Obama will win and then everyone will be crying over his lack of leadership.
     
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  11. pizzaman

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    #311
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  12. robjones

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    #312
    With only two major political parties there are going to be a lot of different demographic groups tossed together into each. In my case I have what'd be technically libertarian leanings but the GOP is the closest of the two that matches. Each party is going to have their share of sharp people, each their share of idiots, and neither is by nature "evil", nor is either entirely composed of crooks and fools.

    Given the diverse backgrounds of people thrown into the major parties it is not any surprise that at any time a member of a party might want their party to change direction... but wanting that change would not be accomplished by changing to the other, rather it has to come by way of change withiin the party.

    As such, that is what I see happening right now inside the GOP. Just as the DNC has had its own internal power struggles, McCain has always been considered something of a fringe member of the GOP. He's been there a long time, just never had access to the leadership role of the party. He has it now. As such, I think he has a chance at making some headway, and I think Palin has some background that will make her an asset in seeking change.

    There has never been a moment in history I've fully agreed with all actions of either party, and that includes now, but voting has always unfortunately been a lesser of the evils question for most. At this time I think McCain Palin ticket has the better chance of delivering a scaled down government than the DNC ticket, hence they have support from others that share my beliefs. Your mileage may vary.
     
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  13. csroster

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    #313
    I suppose the easiest way to put it is the people who are content want things to stay the same.
    The people that aren't want change.

    I would have to agree that party affiliation has little to do with who wants change, except maybe that if we have (for instance) republican leadership the unsatisfied public doesn't want republicans.
     
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  14. homebizseo

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    #314
    Tom Delay (the Hammer) & Rumsfeld

    You should have used better pictures to make a point.

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  15. northpointaiki

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    #315
    As I read you, it seems to me that you see John McCain as a force in moving the GOP to a more centrist position.

    How do you consider Sarah Palin, poster child for the religious rightist movement, to be an asset in this more centrist move?

    A reminder of what Barry Goldwater had to say about what had happened to his party - and this was some time ago.

    I shudder to think what he'd have to say now.
     
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  16. pizzaman

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    #316
    as i said the party has big problems. he will not be able to put together a good group of people that can govern effectively. Palin's choice is a perfect demonstration of this fact. the other choice was Lieberman a liberal independent democrat.
     
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  17. homebizseo

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    #317
    That's where we differ. I think Palin is a better choice for President than everyone that ran for the democrats and the republicans.
     
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  18. pizzaman

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    #318
    if i really wanted to scare the people i would say secretary of the state paul wolfowitz
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    she did not run for president. are you telling me there is no person in the repug party that is more qualified than her. isn't that the exact thing that i am saying
     
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  19. northpointaiki

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    #319
    Uh - yeah. I guess when you're not singing the praises of Jesse Helms, or,

    You really meant "nothing" by lying as to what Hmansfield said, using the word "Sambo" repeatedly, and falsely. Got it.
     
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  20. homebizseo

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    #320
    I am saying I did not like any candidate that ran from either side. If she would have ran, I would have cast a vote for her. I have not 100% liked anyone that ran during the past 4 elections. I am not a party homer like a lot of people in the forum. I do respect McCain but that being said he has never been at the top of my list. His age is not a factor. I thought that Regan was the best President since Lincoln. Obama has zero experience and Clinton was to gung ho. PAul had the best economic plan and the economy is my main concern. Palin has some great ideas to get the economy jump started.
     
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