The Sarah Palin Thread

Uneven handling wouldn't you say? You didn't do this for the obama threads, so does this mean you like her more than obama?



Does your wife know about your interests in this woman?

 

I would have if I had noticed the same thing happening.

They're all the same to me...although I guess it depends on what you mean by "like".

 

I never found Clinton anywhere near as annoying as Palin. Hillary was at least 100X more Presidential.

I listed some of my valid reasons right above this. So thanks for the "concern trolling" but it's completely unnecessary. Palin is unfit to be President (and that should be the criteria for a VP) because of her lack of experience, her lack of ethics, and her extreme far right wing views (for example she is against abortion even in the case of incest and rape.) That's why she's unfit to be President. She's annoying because of her fingernails on chalkboard voice.

The more I think about last night's speech the more I think it was a boon for the Democrats. This is a woman nobody knows and the first thing she does with a huge audience is LIE (like she did about the bridge to nowhere which she was actually for) and mock somebody we all know quite well now (Barack Obama.) Her tone was sarcastic and mocking and very very nasty. That's the first impression she just gave to millions of people. The only folks who will be impressed by that really are the hard right wing people who were already in the tank for the Republicans (no matter what.) I don't see that speech reaching out to independents and I definitely don't see it reaching out to Democrats and the Democrats have a big party ID advantage.

When the extramarital affair story starts to get more play, Palin's reputation will drop even further. This is not someone who will be able to gain America's trust in just 2 months - people will have great questions about her on November 4th. Do we really want this woman one 72 year old heart beat away from the Presidency? I definitely don't. It's hard to hate McCain due to his campaign in 2000 and his time as a POW, this woman? She's easy to hate - she's a nasty vindictive liar. This ticket now has their George W. Bush and her name is Sarah Palin. She is one of the worst people in the universe. Because of her speech last night I donated to the Obama campaign again.

 

The last thing i want is to get into a "fight" with someone, god forbid. Sorry, i shall refrain from posting thoughts and observations on your posts hereafter.

 

Accusing someone as trolling is not warranted. Lightless even though we do not see eye to eye, makes some very valuable points.

 

We can see eye to eye . Issues are different from people. I respect you as a protector of the innocent and for livening up threads with pictures and such. I would disagree on some issues, that's all. I try to see people and their viewpoints differently. I may attack/joke on their viewpoints, but try not to hate the person.

Zibblu just posted his thoughts and i may indeed appear a troll to some.
Damn, i appear righteous and holy now, lol.

 

Karl Rove, touting the glories of Sarah Palin: "She was mayor of, I think it was, the second largest city in Alaska...."

(Wasilla, Alaska: population, 8,700).

Karl Rove, one month earlier, trashing the notion of Tim Kaine, Governor of Virginia, on being on the short list of Obama V.P. nominees: "He's been a governor for 3 years, he was mayor of the 105th largest city in America and again with all due respect to the people of Richmond, it's smaller than Chula Vista, California, Aurora, Colorado, Mesa or Gilbert, Arizona, North Las Vegas or Henderson Nevada it's not a big town so if you were to pick Governor Kaine it would be an intensely political choice were you said 'you know what, I'm really not concerned first and foremost with 'is this person capable of being President of the United States..."


(Richmond, Virginia: population, 198,000).

Similar "lies, hypocrisies and misdemeanours" by Dick Morris, and others....gotta love John Stewart. But let's all make sure none of us ask any questions about Palin's positions, actions, and background. LOL.

 

Makes you wonder doesn't it?

 

Anymore, no, unfortunately. Still, to see these clowns, pretending to any pretense of honor and credibility, so completely exposed, did make me laugh, after seething for some time last night.

 

[as regards city size]

It is strange what little things people will use to get an edge.
If someone supports [or opposes] someone/something, they will have no shortage of supporting facts/proof/evidence for their support/opposing indeed. I still don't remember the proper term for the phenomenon in rhetoric.

 

Agreed, Lightless, and you're right, that it comes from all sides - don't know rhetoric, suspect "data mining" in statistics.

 

I asked elsewhere but that thread was created by a fishing troll, apparently, and was deleted.

Forget her stand on issues - forget, for instance, her desire to overturn Roe v. Wade, and opposition to abortion in cases of even rape.

To those who support Sarah Palin, I raised these, but don't think I received any response:

She has touted herself as an anti-earmark, fiscal conservative who eschews federal pork. Yet she sought, and spent, millions in federal pork while mayor of a town less than 9,000 in population, and has continued the practice as governor.

She rode to gubernatorial office on the popular support for the Ketchikan Bridge, the "Bridge to Nowhere," as she now calls it, then turned about to proclaim herself someone who eschews federal pork on projects like this - to include her lie, last night in her convention speech, saying "I told the federal government, no thanks." (Paraphrased - I don't remember exact line, beyond "no thanks" to the Bridge). This, when she never returned the federal monies, to boot. Both Democrats and Republicans from Alaska have decried the hypocrisy:

(sorry, moved away from the source - it's widely available).

Do these not trouble you? I know when Obama bought a house from Tony Rezko, there was a viral firestorm that didn't stop at the gates to DP - yet Obama's apparent lapse pales in comparison.

In other words, where's the beef, "beef" in the sense of an honest condemnation?

 

She changed her mind? I believe at one time, I counted that Kerry had thirteen different positions in a matter of a year on Iraq. It does happen.

I knew when I watched here last night that the liberal left was not going to be happy with her. I was quite amazed that Biden and one of the Obama campaign aides both said she did a great job (paraphrasing, for those who believe it's not possible to illustrate what someone said, without an exact quote).

Not sure what else to say. It's not like Obama supporters were going to change their mind over Rezko, or any of the other very questionable relationships he's had, that the media tries to sweep under the rug.

Every state gets federal funding for roads. As I understand, Congress removed the "earmark" classification of it? Was trying to read up on what all the huss and fuss was last night, after the liberal media went haywire on it. Seems like much a do about nothing, though I can certainly see why the left would need something to go after her on.

 

Wade, I think what is troubling to many people is it seems to have come as political opportunity. It would be one thing if she had a position, then shifted, as all human beings can, having researched it or conditions changed. But she stridently pushed for the bridge, and this is what got her into the governor's chair, then shifted, once the tide had turned on federal pork and Stevens was left to hang.

I can't agree that this is just a leftist feeding frenzy. Her principal critic on this is Mike Elerding, the local Republican campaign coordinator for her, who helped win her the governership. Apparently this was to be a bridge named in honor of a fallen vet:

It's not the only instance, either - yet to be fully fleshed out, but the millions sought in pork, her alleged use of public monies and resources illegally for private purposes - these raise a bona fide referendum on her integrity, in my opinion, particularly when she purports to be a candidate standing on staunch principles, while trashing the character, even patriotism, of Obama.

 

Wait a second, are you saying the evolution is crackpot BS?

Regardless, I was actually amazed by her speech. Too bad she's not running instead of McCain, I may be able to get excited for the GOP. But meh, McCain is almost as much fail as Obama.

 

I expected liberals to make this an issue. Why wouldn't they? OK, she initially pushed for it then backed off and changed her mind. People are going to speculate what was going through her mind and that's expected.

So if one Republican took issue with it, that discounts it's a leftist feeding frenzy? I can't agree with that.

Allegations are a dime a dozen these days. Obama/Biden should consider conducting themselves properly, if they don't want Governor Palin to respond back to their criticisms. It does work both ways. Sarah was a victim, for a week, or the most outright attempt by the Obama campaign and his unofficial 501s...the MSM, that I can recall witnessing in my lifetime.

She put an end to that crap real quick!

Let's not kid ourselves, Paul, even if there were not allegations, even if she hadn't "flip/flopped" on one issue, or changed her mind, there would be something else, right? I mean, you are not going to vote for McCain/Palin, regardless, nor am I going to vote for Obama (especially with all his baggage) and Biden.

We both know this! Polls seemed to have balanced out real quick and money is pouring in. And, even despite her offensive on the media, for virtually ripping her family to shreds over the past week, some in the media still couldn't resits taking it a bit further.

I can rest comfortably knowing the tides have turned now. If I were a liberal, I'd be concerned too

 

The book Freakonomics puts forth some interesting and controversial theories and explanations that it was Roe v. Wade that led to reductions in crime rates [And still does] in U.S.A after it came into effect.

What it goes on to say is that when a woman doesn't want a child, she often has right reasons for it, like being not able to care for her child properly and inability to provide a home environment conducive to raising a healthy and productive child.

 

You should have not wasted you vote on Obama and voted for Hilliary. At least Hillary is smart.

You think she is "one of the worst people in the universe." Unbelievable......Send him some more money to blow.

 

What if she became preez??