Buying Links - What am I missing?

Discussion in 'Link Development' started by richromo, Sep 4, 2008.

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    Google cracks down on paid links! Buying paid links is risky!
    I am sooooo confused when I read these posts, articles.........
    Throughout the blogs I am posting comments on I see my competitors paying for text link ads, banner ads............ At least I think they are paying for them as I don't know any site that is giving them away for free particularly on blogs with 2,3, 4 and 5 PR. I want to place my text links here as well.
    How can anyone advertise on any site and get a relevent back link without risking the wrath of the almighty googleness?
    I apologize if I sound dumb but methinks I am confused. Help! Yikes!
     
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  2. puzzle

    puzzle Active Member

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    Ask yourself first why pay for backlink? For PR or for traffic?
    If you need PR boost, try commenting on dofollow links, email link webmaster for link exchange, backlink from hubpages and squidoo.
    If you want targetted traffic, try DP forum, Yahoo answers, EZ and SEO.
    Give these free options a try before burn a hole in your pocket.
     
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  3. gwill321

    gwill321 Guest

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    Puzzle - if thats your pic you is fit!
     
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  4. XTP605

    XTP605 Well-Known Member

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    Very good information, I agree.

    First off, instead of buying links, you need to trade links with relevant sites, and then when this gets indexed, google will see your trying to be legit, and it gives you a little more leadway so google's engine won't think your a "bad guy".

    Trying to manipluate a search engine, not to mention Google, isn't such a good idea. I'd focus on bookmarks/trading links/comments. Then after about 2-3 months of that, try purchasing a couple of links, but not too many because you'll be penalized for having excessive links inbound from numberous sites.
     
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  5. richromo

    richromo Active Member

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    First, thanks for your responses, I appreciate it!
    I would be buying links for PR! I know this is attempting to manipulate the serps and how is google to know if I am doing it to manipulate PR or to get traffic. I certainly would love the traffic, if any, that resulted from the links. So I am also doing it for traffic, but in my heart of hearts I want long term serp benefit.

    I am commenting on related blogs as well. As far as exchanging links I do that rarely anymore. At last check many of my "partners" had deleted their links back to me and a couple of months ago I attempted to pick up some PR 1, 2, 3 and 4 link partners and had NO success. Many people apparently believe reciprocal linking is dead. While I don't share that opinion I have a hard time arguing with the lemmings who believe it is dead. I have 8 lenses on squidoo as well and am adding lenses on a regular basis as well as updating the existing lenses.

    Of course I am here at DP and have learned so much the link backs are just gravy! Yahoo answers, yes them too but haven't recently. What is DZ? I am unfamiliar with that or I am having a brain fart like usual. Also I try to improve 100+ pages per week of my web pages for SEO purposes. I have between 15K and 20K backlinks to my site depending on the day I search seocentro. The "apparent" value and I say apparent value because just because my competitors are doing it doesn't mean they are right is yahoo shows the link as a back link every time the blog whose link is on is updated resulting in many backlinks. Isn't this worth paying for? I am trying everything I am learning here to improve my sites serps, pr and traffic. BTW, I am an ecommerce site, not that that makes any difference.

    Again thanks for the suggestions :)
     
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  6. supervaca

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    When backlincks are not so important, and even descifrated by google, when many Forums are nofollow...how can you create links without paying? I mean a good quantity of links, you can post sth here and there, but finally or you dedicate 24/7 to your pages (and I think most of us have other activities) or you buy links....
     
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  7. sultanofseo

    sultanofseo Notable Member

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    yes, google coming down hard on paid links. but if you know how to obtain good quality paid links without google knowing they are paid, it will still work.
     
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  8. Gomar

    Gomar Well-Known Member

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    There's really nothing wrong with paid links. If you don't got that much time to articles and submit them then you can pay to get some.

    Yahoo directory is paid. And I would doubt there would be many people who would disagree when I say it's does great for your site.
     
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    Think about this logically...There is no way that Google can penalize you for buying a link! The internet runs off it. They sell adwords (those are links)...everybody sells links, ads, whatever you want to call it. If they think they can change things. let them go ahead and try and watch when people stop using them.

    The only thing they will might accomplish by such a mission is piss off the entire world, and make them so mad they start using MSN, or something, lol.

    Good Luck with that Google. I would like to see you try. The power is in the hands of the users.
     
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  10. Gomar

    Gomar Well-Known Member

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    Exactly my point, that's why I say there's really nothing wrong with it. I doubt anyone would start using msn though lol. People probably switch to Yahoo if they not already using that already.

    Only thing about buying links is try not to buy links form directories that are clearly farm links, meaning they just got a bunch of crappy random links, for the sake of linking. Site has no traffic, it links to crappy sites with no information, and is so disorganized no one would actually use it at all.

    I doubt you would be penalized for that but it's just a waste of money on your part as it would probably do nothing good for your site.
     
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  11. oregonthunder2

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    I wanted to throw something else in...it makes me want to laugh.

    I notice people talking about how they are commenting on blogs.

    People get a life! This is no way to spend your time. You probably do not even read the whole blogs that your placing the your link on in the hope, that maybe, just maybe it might be the turning point to make you rich someday.

    This is like playing the lottery. Most people Do Not Read Blogs!

    How many people subscribe the newspaper? I don't! I watch the news on tv

    The bloggers write in hope somebody will find them, pop onto their site, just happen to click on their adsense ads and make thirty cents.

    I am so sick and tired of what Google is doing to the internet and you all are all buying into it, like naive children who follow the man who offers you a piece of candy.

    Ask yourself this, especially for the webmasters that have been around since 1998 or before, wasn't the internet more adventurous before the google age. You could dream up an idea and make it happen...but now Google has ruined those dreams, because people are too worried about pandering to them. They destroy the creativity and have created a whole world of content clones, where every website looks like a book.

    The internet is ugly right now, and its about time people forget about google and find other means of advertising. If I had half a million dollars I could build a search engine way better than anything the world has ever seen.

    Instead of releasing browsers, google should be improving it's search engine, which has been slipping ever so farther down. The only reason to release a browser in my opinion is to intercept and send search data to google (basically spying on people and what they search for...what websites they visit, ect).

    Nuff said!
     
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  12. richromo

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    Like usual the response to question here at DP is thoughtful and informed and there are two sides to this issue of buying links. The time it takes to build links is enormous. I am beginning to agree that commenting on blogs is likely a waste of time. For instance I posted links on related blogs over the weekend, all were adding something to the blog and Yes, I read the post before commenting. All the blogs were moderated- I put my url in the website box and added a minimum of two to three sentences on point.
    Checked back today - all were refused - not listed - nada -nothing.
    Now perhaps I shouldn't expect something for virtually nothing but...... the point is why bother? Now I am not going to give up posting on blogs but I am not going to spend as much time doing it. I will look harder to see if the blog allows commercial sites to post. These particular blogs only allowed comments from other blogs, so I will limit my efforts to promoting my blogs - no worries. Like everything else the free stuff is not as easy as it looks.

    Paid links - I am getting closer to throwing money into paid ads as some of the keywords I am going after are highly competitive and I won't get there on free links alone, or at least anytime before I am too senile to care.
     
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  13. XTP605

    XTP605 Well-Known Member

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    Dude, why you hating on Google? I bet you probably make your living off their organic traffic. Not denying Google's monopoly; you have a great argument, and some people are simple minded to the point where what you were saying, people do replicate into believing.
     
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    richromo Active Member

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    The more I ponder the issue of google cracking down on paid ads the more difficult it is to believe it is even possible. As an e-commerce site I am looking for related blogs/forums/..... to post on and the truth is there is nothing but paid links all over the place. E-commerce is simply too competitive to just rely on link building in the manner suggested here and other forums.

    I agree that quality links from high pr sites with related content is ideal but every high pr site in the e commerce realm is selling paid ads/ links ......... Do you honestly think Google is going to crack down on fashion sites/ entertainment sites/ news sites.......?

    How? and what will the result be?
     
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    "email link webmaster for link exchange" no kidding... did anyone try this and got any links back!

    i know i did...all were showing off how they got pr1 pr3...but no one will give u link back

    buying blog posts is ok with google (thats what i know)...
    you can't sell links but google can sell link spot on your site for other sites by adsense...unless you have nofollow on,
    correct me on this!
     
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    Don't email webmasters - link to them. Follow the golden rule of linking:

    Link to others as you would have them link to you.
     
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    Actually I am one of the lucky ones, I am retired military. I retired at the age of 29. Getting ready in a few months to hit 34.
     
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    Google isn't god. Do you what you want to do with your site. after all, it's your site.
     
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  19. StageHD

    StageHD Banned

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    Google is getting annoying now since they are not getting any more popular! ROFL, i mean come on your #2 Alexa and you want more?? , stupid google trying to conquor the world.
     
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    Lotta G haters here LOL

    They probably won't slap you too hard for BUYING links since that's hard to prove. But guaranteed they'll slap your PR and possible your SERPs also if you get caught selling Link Love!
     
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