Have you ever considered that people use long sales page because they are PROVEN to work? People don't just wake up one day and think "today I will create a long sales page just to piss brokerdidi off", no one could give a rats ass what you think about long sales pages, what they care about is the bottom line and they amount of money they make. Please send an email to some of the clickbank gurus who make thousands using long sales pages and tell them that their long sales pages suck and that they are a waste of time........I'm sure they will listen........ Long sales pages are proven to boost profit without a doubt. Some people actually like reading about what they are thinking of buying and unlike you they just don't look at a pretty picture and go "duh.....I'll buy it" Thanks for the laugh anyway.......I'm off to write a long sales letter...
Listen brokerdedi, what you don't get here is that marketers and customers think differently about products. While that long *ugly* page looks awful to you, it may look very interesting and exciting for the potential buyer, because they don't see that kind of stuff everyday, like you do.
I agree with you. I also hate those LONG sales letter pages because they are annoying. But, when it comes to making money, I can handle them. LOL!
I know "they" think differently that's why I pointed out that I speak from buyer's side not the marketer's. I'm not only a webmaster, I buy stuff online on a monthly basis and as a buyer I don't like sales letters but straight-to-the point model, CB marketers on the other side apparently like long spamming crap. And of course I bitch and moan, this is a forum you goofys. I can say whatever I want about Clickbank and there's nothing you can do about it. Either discuss like normal people or go write a long sales letter and make 143,435$ in 7 days and 24 minutes. Only 5$ and a limited time offer 3$ for first ten people. LOL
I am not so concerned about the length of a sales letter, but as its useful content. There has to be enough value in amongst the testimonials and videos that proves the product will provide something of value or use to the customer. If I find "the value content" in the sales letter then I can promote it. What does frustrate me about some Clickbank publishers is when they can't put up a readable sales page - their html skills are not sufficient to present their material in a way that makes sense (at least, to me). I also like it if they have some affiliate tools I can use - sometimes all I need is a decent banner for a particular niche page...
I've officially noted it. Since people like you make up 1% of the market, I have no reason to go after your demographic. End of story.
What is S&H? And Doesn't CJ sells any digital product? You are right. I am extremely new to affiliate market itself
No he's not, but I'm sure he can point out an idiot pretty easily. Your looking for a fight, generalizing about stuff you have no idea about instead of being useful. Just what we need...........NOT!
A sale is a sale. At the end of the day, if you're happy with what you're selling and making money, then you've accomplished your goal. It seems you're saying that Clickbank is "unethical" in the products that most publishers offer (referring to your rants about long, drawn out sales letters and scams). While you might think a product is a scam, the next guy is benefiting from purchasing that same product. Your logic doesn't add up. And to touch on sales letters and their purpose: If people discover something that they may be interested in and know nothing about, they need some explanation of what the product will do for them. I see nothing wrong with this. Big retailers don't expect consumers to walk into their store and know EVERYTHING about the products they've heard about and are considering purchasing. That's why salespeople are in the stores - TO EXPLAIN WHAT THE PRODUCT DOES AND SHOW YOU IT'S BENEFITS! A sales letter online is equivalent to a salesperson at a store. It has the same exact effect. Whether explained vocally or read, people are going to take the information in a way that they understand it. If they don't like what they read/hear, they move on. While I will say that there are some crappy products on Clickbank, there are also great products as well. I promote great products that I believe in. Are their crappy products on CJ? Of course, but I am sure you stand behind the products you promote and choose products that are great and you know people will buy. Then again, maybe I'm wrong. Simply put - This thread is like a long sales letter that we've created for YOU to understand why YOU'RE wrong. If you don't like what we have to say, leave. You're right about your right to bitch and moan on a forum, and I've got just as much right to do the same. With that being said, I've got some cash to earn on CB
I sort of know what you mean, but when I see some of the more effective sales copy, I can see the art in it and really appreciate it (from a marketing perspective). Here is the thing about cj vs clickbank: The Commision level! I ran a bit of an experioment a while back with a usfree ad, unfortuanley I went with a cj product at the time, and while the experiment did turn into probably 20-30+ sales, the crappy commision at cj really meant it was not that worth while. If that had have been a clickbank product, then that money could have been something significant. My affiliate marketing is mainly directed towards other nich programs that are not clickbank, but they do however give $50+ a conversion. It really makes all the difference. Sure, this stuff is not the sort of long sale letter, but as I target other niches, clickbank is alway my first browse for a product now. Affiliate marketing is alot easier if the money you get for a commision is significant, without the buyer having to spend some serious cash for you to get this significant money. I will have to think very hard before generating another cj affiliate link without the high commision levels.
Heh, what a freak show we got in here I started CB a few days ago, zero sales, and enjoying it every moment while learning how to convert visits into buyers. Just doing it with Squidoo lenses, testing some niches, and moving right now into ezinearticles + own domain + long sales page. If so much people is making so much money, why should i be out? "Follow the money"
No, I'm not. You need a license for that. But I do know psychology because it's essential to marketing. You can be as cynical as you want, but that doesn't prove any points. Here's something you may not be aware of and I'm not sure why you don't get it. It could possibly be due to your age. Your failure to be informed does not make me wrong. Seriously, why pick fights in here? You're not going to win.
I came here to say what I think about Clickbank sales pages, what's wrong with that? It's you crybabies who can't handle critics and then you even have guts to pretend you make a shitload of money with CB. You're a fool and I pitty the fool. WebAttend, I agree with you but commissions are so high at Clickbank because most of the products are garbage, that explains a huge refund percentage. Compare products promoted with CJ and those with Clickbank and you'll notice the difference immediatly and you can't expect to have the same amount of sales with CJ as with CB because products vary on both sides. Try them both and then decide whether it's more profitable to make 20 sales with 15% commission or 5 sales with 70% commission.
The best Clickbank Sales letters get the viewer reading, excited to buy, and then tries to make the product sound better and better as they scroll down. It also doesn't have "distracting" links for the visitor to click on. They convert the same way infomercials do-- you know how you see something that is an obvious commercial, but you keep watching anyway? And it just sort of gets you a little excited... and then, by the time you've watched it for a full hour, you say to yourself, "Oh it's only $XX... what the heck... I'll buy it." Compare that to a typical, short page. Someone reads and quickly leaves. Or they get distracted by all the "click here" buttons and eventually leave the site. Regardless of what you may think of them, long, Clickbank-style sales pages really do convert.
Crybabies? Hahaha! Who's the one saying "I hate long sales letters, I hate long sales letters!...They are ugly and I'm scared of Long sales letters." Anyway man, this is ridiculous, yep, this is a forum, you've made your point, WE can also SAY whatever we want to say, Just get over it and move on, its simple we make money with CB you don't! Let's move to something more interesting. Commissions... Ah Cj product, Some $20 product 15% commission : $3 per sale X 20 sales = $60 CB Average product $47 , 70% commission: $32.9 per sale X 5 sales = $164.5 Ooops! haha, thanks man I stay with CB.
i hate it too. those crappy sites, with html table at the center then long testimonials along the way.. but the heck i care, as long as i'm earning with it, as long as i'm seeing those bars in clickbank rising, i will keep on working for it. after all, it's all about money.