Turkey to buy S-300 systems for testing

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    The Russians have almost always had the best rockets in the world.
    And the Turks curtainly want to learn from the best.
    First man in space was Russian - Gagarin.
     
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    Does north cyprus still fights with turks?
     
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    You mean South Cyprus?
     
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    maybe south, I dont know which one is independent now? The North? That article says about the whole Cyprus using S-300?
     
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    A little map will be useful

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    As for the missiles, the Cyprus issue will rise sooner or later, it's for the best to be precautious. I'm sure it's part of a defence routine, nothing immediate.
     
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    UM buffer zone? So, there are still peacekeepers in Cyprus ? I didnt know that.
     
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    The only country to land on the moon is USA.
     
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    The only country to use nukes on ppl is USA. :D

    The first country in space - USSR ;) :D
     
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    You are missing the fact that the US is the only country that has the technology to put a man on the moon.\

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    You are missing many more facts .... Some of them from recent history:

    " ....Space Shuttle Columbia blew up and disintegrated in flames 39 miles over Texas Saturday morning, Feb 1, 2003, killing all seven astronauts :.... "

    After that who's spacecraft was used to take astronauts and cargo for years to the international space station and to bring them back?


    Blinded fanatical neocons are nothing more, but a recipe for failures. Many of them lead US to "Nowhere".

    What do you neocons benefit when you make more and more enemies? Very interested to get an answer to this question.
     
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    #1 Eastern Europe does not trust Russia and that's the reason they seek membership in NATO.

    #2 Russian weapon systems have a poor record against US/NATO systems.
     
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    1. Very general and wrong statement.
    Some of them may not, others trust Russia more than US.
    US got control over some countries in EU just by bribing their politicians. Politicians are the biggest prostitutes ever.
    Russia can easily get them on her side just by copying what the "democratic US" is doing. Bribery.

    Have you ever questioned yourself why those who joined Nato didn't hold national referendums in their countries?
    Most people in Europe and the world do see NATO as a tool serving 99% of the time Washington's interests.

    2. Again generally wrong statement.
    Plain propaganda and a good food for neocons only.
    Inteligent people will never buy it.

    Proove me please only this - US has a better anti-aircraft system than S-400 TRIUMPH
    .........."The long-range missile," Vladimir Svetlov says, "has no analogs. The other missile, the 9M96, does have foreign counterparts, such as an advanced American missile for the PAC-3 Patriot system, but outperforms it, as well as the French Aster, in terms of overall effectiveness by approximately twofold." ...........The S-400 system is intended to engage current and future air threats such as tactical and strategic aircraft, Tomahawk cruise missiles and other type missiles, including precision-guided ones, as well as AWACS aircraft, at ranges of up to 400 km. It can also detect stealth aircraft and other targets at all altitudes of their combat employment and at maximum ranges. ..............the S-400 air defense system because in terms of the effectiveness-cost ratio it is 2.5 times more proficient than the now-functioning systems.

    http://warfare.ru/?catid=264&linkid=1699
     
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    Before you get all excited about the S-400. Look at this -- The new American F-22 Raptor which has no match.

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    http://www.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=199

    The Soviet Union was known for tabk quanity. But the T-80 has a lot of quality issues and is no match for the MA2 Abrams tank or the French Leclerc, German Lepoard II or British Army Challenger II MBT.
     
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    Aparantly I am right on 1. and on 2. You have nothing to offer.
    In General you think exactly the same way the White with this admin thinks. And they failed everybody.
    Do America yourself and your family a favor.
    DON'T VOTE THIS TIME.


    And how F-22 will get through the S-400?



    (About the tanks they are easy to be taken out. Check the war Israel against Hisbullah. If Hisbula had more Metis M antitank missiles it would be next to impossible to ocupy somebody elses country. )
     
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    The F-22 has s6taelth technology. That's how it will get through the S-400.

    The US fights with combined arms. Mechanized infantry screens the armor. The Metis M antitank missile would do any go when the terrorist operating it has a 5.56mm round in the head.

    Btw, are you proud that Russia supplies anti-tank missles to the hezbollah terrorists?
     
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    LMAO. Is that browntwn in another account?

    I'm not sure what he is proud of contributes to this discussion, bogart.
     
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    bogart you forgot to mention that the US flew hundreds of mission over Russia weekly with the SR71 during the cold war and Russia did not have the technology to stop it even though they would literally discharge thousands of missiles weekly trying stop the greatest spyplane ever built premodern computer era.
    [​IMG]
     
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    Now I think bogart is about 16 years old ...
    Can you please read and reread and reread and rearead ......... my post so I don't have to copy and paste again and waste more hard disk space?

    "The S-400 system is intended to engage current and future air threats such as tactical and strategic aircraft, Tomahawk cruise missiles and other type missiles, including precision-guided ones, as well as AWACS aircraft, at ranges of up to 400 km. It can also detect stealth aircraft and other targets at all altitudes of their combat employment and at maximum ranges.

    I hope you read this one and remember it.

    First of all Russia didn't supply Hisbula with Metis M. If Russia starts supplying Hisbula and Hamas with weapons the jews will start leaving Israel. If Hisbula had S-300 or S-400 Israel wouldn't have been able to inflict that much damage in the civilian areas in Lebanon. Even with a kill ratio of 10 to 1 Israelis will still have hard time living in that land since most Hisbula and Hamas fighters are not afraid of dying and the Russians long range artilery and rockets will be hitting all Israeli cities.
    (If I was the Israely prime minister I would never send a single military instructor in Georgia. As you know it and you don't want to acknowledge Israely and US military instructors were training the Georgian army for the agression agains S. Ossetia.)


    Anyway like I said before I am for peace and love for all, not just for Americans their friends and puppets. Most Cons and Neocons are not for peace and love for all.
     
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