OK This Is ALL The Truth About Me - My LAST Post -

Please read the entire thread before you start posting bullshit. Thank you.



(if you want a proof, look closely my other screenshot. You will notice i didnt make any sales that day before 5h, then, after the "9 sales" from Eric, a big void until 11h, and that i only made 3 sales the day before. However i make about 10 sales everyday at 2-3 hours difference. I know this seems like a pretty poor proof but i believe just this statement will reduce the FAKE!!!! U SCAMMER AND LIE AGAIN!!! statements by at least half)

Here is the real screenshot. The one i put on the first page of my last thread was a photoshopped copy/paste as the last test i made about some people of this forum. I know this community doesn't like me not refunding my customers on request, and i wanted to see how far this hate goes. Now i know it. I am not a scammer to the point of literally stealing money. I once had a triple sale and didnt refund. ended up in 3 chargebacks. Now i refund any double sales or more (all beside one) as soon as i get a email from the customer.

Even though you obviously don't believe it, i think all the publishers do like me, and don't refund on-request-with-no-questions-asked. I have tested it with many different products, all of them belonging to "great" marketers of this community or others. bought a product as a test, asked technical support, answered within 2 days, then asked for refund, never answered. asked again. no response. had to get it with CB.

So this is why you guys piss me off so much. First, you can't make the difference between a competitor and a copycat. Secondly, you laugh at me when i attempt to protect my legal rights (copying an idea is legal. Stealing images that i paid to design ISN'T.). Thirdly, you discriminate me because i admit to do something i now KNOW alot publishers do and i just get my pants on and admit it openly while other respected people don't.

people complain about my anime product being a scam. Wake up!!! 90% of CB products are scams, and the other 10% is packed-up free information found on the sites ranking in top 10 on google for targetted keywords...

Then you guys complain AGAIN about me. This time because i copied Swerd...Swerd actually copied this of Livingoffgrid. He saw the potential of a under-promoted product with a crappy landing page and managed a killing. Congratulation! that doesn't make him anymore moral than me.... Yes i did copy a lot more of Swerd than Swerd did copy living offgrid. So what? I'm trying to grow my business like any of those W4G or E4E copycats out there. It doesn't make me evil for that...

Now i think you guys could calm the f**k down. There's so many copycats now, and most of them based themselves off MY site instead of Swerd's. Probably because they were afraid of getting the community against them by copying a great guy and they preffered to copy a hated guy instead. Kill two birds with one shot: Get your own page of a great product and get simpathy by copying an evil guy instead of a great guy. HELLO??? the outcome is the same!.....

I am not awaiting anything from this community. We are all marketers. And soon enough i found that being a marketer means to be a liar. No matter how "nice, wise and helpful" you are in this community, if you are a good marketer, you are a good liar. This does not exclude you, Swerd.....you might be nice and helpful to this community, but your landing pages are full of lies and fake characters, and when i tested your product anonymously, you have stopped answering my emails after i told you i wasn't gonna accept technical support anymore and just wanted a refund. I also tested it with a few other great products and even other copycats of E4E.....

@ Swerd: My very own product, that is nearly like yours, gets about 15% refund requests by email because of reasons like "i though i had bought a physical book" or "I though it would learn me how to MAKE the cells, not buy em on ebay" or "All this information already available on free sites!!!" which has nothing to do with my book being shorter than yours. The only reason you get 2.5% refund is because you do like me, avoid refund requests. My refund rate is about 3 to 3.5%. I have tested you myself and your stats just prove it. Liar. Like me and all the others. Great marketer? Great liar.

I was very disapointed with the whole affiliate marketing concept. I have learned not to give a shit anymore a few months ago, when i released my first product and lie as well. Since about 2-3 weeks i did the tests myself anonymously to see who really hides under the "moral" marketers here. Now who's hypocritical? just me? more like 100% of the marketing community, imo.

Some of you might think this is just a lame attempt at getting my reputation back up. I'm leaving this forum in either case because you guys are obviously so blinded by "moral concepts" that you walk directly into helping and supporting the real scammers that not only lie to their customers like i do, but also lie to YOU guys about their real actions. Believe my speech or not, i dont give a flying f**k.

Its been fun and entertaining to talk on this forum but now ive gotten pretty pissed and this is going to be my last post. Have fun bragging about your great values and flame this post as much as you want. I will enjoy reading the replies but don't expect me to justify or reply anything. Ive said what i had to say.

Goodbye.

-Exilus

P.S: To my MNP affiliates: I haven't forgotten you. As promised, contact me in a few days (the 23 to 26 i think..) with the required information and if you qualify i will pay you your prize for being one of my top 5 affiliate.

 

Exilus (I spelled it correctly this time ). I will not comment on your Business ethics... If I don't agree with you - I simply won't buy from you or promote you and vise versa.

You have contributed to this forum, you are making money - that's all that matters at this point of time.

Cheers,

Alex

 

I read your post twice and I still don't get what you're trying to say.

 

okay, I have been away for a few days and to come back to this is quite disturbing.

not because of the drama from previous posts, but that you would put a screen shot
that has peoples names and what types of credit cards they use. This could totally
hurt all aspects of ClickBank and us affiliates as a whole.

Please cover them up Exilus,
Thank you.

 

I already reported him to ClickBank two days ago for that other thread. They'll probably disable his account and remove his product from their marketplace.

 

I haven't read the other topic which you're talking about, but on this note:

people complain about my anime product being a scam. Wake up!!! 90% of CB products are scams, and the other 10% is packed-up free information found on the sites ranking in top 10 on google for targetted keywords...

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It's actually, very true. In my eyes, all clickbank products are misleading 100% in some shape or form some more then others, if people don't think this is true then they're bloody idiots, this isn't really fair marketing I guess.
If people here are going to complain about misleading products, then they should be at CJ. I'm personally disgusted by many clickbank marketers, I mean man there's so many people on this forum (there's an example thread in the general affiliate marketing section) where someone posts a question such as "which is the best..." and 90% of replies will be "Check my sig, this is the best" trying to sell their product in any way possible (with the exception of certain people, I noticed Ripped from here gave genuine information, only clickbank section user I noticed) it turns digital point from an affiliate discussion place to a pathetic last resort of marketing.

There's so many people who mislead, all the "I made $1377 in 1 day" threads, etc. All the clickbank screenshots (here's an idea, put an actual video up instead of bullshitting with fake screenshots) posted, it's pathetic in many ways, this doesn't mean i'm going to leave however. I don't know what you've done exactly to piss so many people off, just clean your act up and stay here, i've found that Digitalpoint is actually a great place to be especially for publishers, I just ignore half of the fake threads.

I, like every other member here will continue to mislead probably, but i'll never ever post fake screenshots, fake earnings, etc. If i'm ever to post something i'll always give proof, and will always be willing to refund the moment i'm asked to.

 

Your business ethics make me want to puke.

 

No they wont.

 

Quit crying man.

You're really annoyed about a bunch of people you met on a forum? Grow up. I couldn't care less whether you guys like me or not... it's not like my whole marketing world evolves around here.

Who cares if you copied a product. It's those checkmarks which infuriated me. Can't believe you let that bastard get away with those...

 

Are there many misleading and scammy products? Yes!

But does it make it okay for us to make such products? NO!

Basically your reasoning is 'Because everyone else is doing it, It's okay for me to do it too' - NO IT'S NOT!!!

Because Others are making it hard to get a refund, I'm gonna make it hard to get a refund too

Because Others are promoting scammy products, It's okay to make my own scammy product.

So what, everyone else is robbing banks, am I gonna do the same thing?

Whether you're a honest and decent human being depends on your actions, you decide what kind of person you will be, what others do shouldn't affect you. There are some good examples on this forum of honest, good-hearted publishers which make tons of money. You don't have to dishonest and have scammy products to make money, it all depends on the path you're gonna choose.

 

I've just read the actual thread this is about now, and the attitude Exilus has is actually disgusting, I don't think you deserve to be an affiliate marketer.

 

Integrity is hard to find these days.

 

I hope you are joking when you said that copying an idea is legal?! You are way wrong....

Actually you "think" its legal because you did that to other products, and because someone "copied" your images you complained and are saying that thats illegal because you were the "victim"? - moron


You sound like a 1 year old kid, grow up and do some work, stop wasting your time and ours with useless threads! you are attracting too much attention and making us affiliates & publishers look bad...

Stop being a looser or you will loose everything once clickbank will delete your e4e and anime products..oh probably this will happen soon since they already reported you that you as just showing sales details in a public forum which is strictly against clickbank terms of service

You will learn soon the lesson and end with nothing - as it should...

 

web_18designer. There's no point in arguing from a rational point of view. He has a product that basically teaches people how to commit copyright infringement I don't think he knows the difference between right and wrong.

 

I don't want to post a huge reply, all I can is:

Take it easy. Life is still going on.

 

Copying ideas is legal actually. Copying products and copyrighted work isn't.

Hell, if you have a patend (which is meant to be the copyrighting of an idea) you can still copy the idea in some respects...

 

After reading this thread ,My mood is disturbed ,Please quit from here .

 

Humans have an instinctual need to be at peace with themselves. Most people reduce the internal conflict by living their life a certain way, treating others a certain way and generally keeping themselves in check.

However, there is a segment of society that do not live their life the right way. These people still have the same need to not be at conflict with themselves. At this point there are only 2 courses of action they can take.

1. Change behavior
2. Justify behavior

Most take the justification route. Once this justification is taken and is excepted by the individual, the actions are then seen as ok thus reducing the level of internal conflict.

Everyone has different levels of acceptance to which they can justify. Some can justify murder, rape, burglary and a host of other obvious crimes. The people had it coming to them, they are owed something, etc. These people are the extreme of our society.

Exilus has found himself at internal conflict. He doesn't have the strength to change his behavior and therefore has began to justify.

Since he has become an ethically challenged, lying, cheating, integrity lacking, scum ball marketer that gives all of us a bad name, he believes that everyone must be this way.

If what he says makes you angry, replace that anger with pity.

Karma is a bitch.

 

Well said....

 

This is awesome, I love this kind of drama!

Ex I know you're reading this and your post here exactly sums up why I always thought you were a clown. I'm actually embarassed that you're a Canadian as well.

You truly have some issues to work out amongst yourself, and you certainly went out with a bang. Well done!