Russia Warns: Poland could face attack over its missile defense deal with the US.

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1704114,00.html

Poland also requested the defense systems and agreements because of our want to put the missiles on their territory, they did not want the missiles for their protection.

 

So the reason people do not want it in their nation is because Russia is threatening them and scaring them.

 

Wow talk about putting a twist onto things.

That really says 'threatening them' where might I ask?

One can fear something without being 'threatened'

 

Well since Russia has openly made threats I was adding that in.
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,24193291-401,00.html

 

Well that would only work had the threats came BEFORE the article I linked you to

 

That was just one example. Here is another from 2007

Russia has been threatening to move missiles near Poland for quite some time if they get the missile base in their country.

http://www.eagleworldnews.com/2007/07/05/russia-threatens-to-deploy-missiles-near-poland/

 

Moving missiles near Poland is far from a threat, it also does not state that is why the people are against it 'threats' which is my main point.

Sorry I'm anal about people making up their own facts

 

And
http://www.nysun.com/foreign/russia-threatens-poles-czechs-with-missiles/48952/

And having missiles moved to the border and pointed at you is a threat. I do not know what planet you come from but here on earth that is called a threat.

And you stated they are opposed because they are fearing actions from Russia. And threats and being afraid go hand and hand.

fear:
a distressing emotion aroused by impending danger, evil, pain, etc., whether the threat is real or imagined; the feeling or condition of being afraid.

Notice how the word threat is in the definition. Almost as if they are coorelated.

 

Czechoslovakia was invaded by the Soviets and its allies during a period liberalization in the 60s. Poland was invaded by the Nazis and Soviets during WWII and was ruled by the Soviets after WWII. The two countries have the history(I know it's not Czechoslovakia anymore), and Russia has the history of aggression that makes it valid for them to feel threatened.
The quotes you posted shows clearly that they felt threatened, and then the Russians did proceed to outright threaten them. Their concerns seem to have been confirmed.

 

You brought up a 'threat' being their reasoning, nowhere in the article did it state it was because of them being 'threatened' you decided to add that. Notice how the 'threat' in the definition is threat is real or imagined which does not equate to the meaning your are so sadly trying to portrait it as.

Sorry I like to deal in facts, not twisting of them, sorry to see you are more of the same..

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/world/AP/story/646719.html

Ahh but your first article only states moving missiles near a country, forgive me if I'm wrong but since when does Russia need to move a missile near a country in order to hit them?

You are doing nothing more than creating fantasy out of articles, stick with what the articles actually state FFS.

 

Sigh you are missing the point 'yet again'

NOWHERE in the article does it state that is the reason 'Russian threats'

 

The article stated they were afraid of a conflict with Russia. Why would they fear a conflict with Russia if they did not feel threatened. Dont be stupid. You can play dumb all you want but they go hand and hand. And taht definition fits perfectly with what I am saying. I said that fear is caused by a threat and thats what the definition stated. So you are wrong again. I am not sure what imaginary world you live in but you cannot try t ochange the definition of words when you are wrong.

 

If Russia was a friendly country they would probably not even entertain the thought of hosting the missiles.

 

Anyone can 'fear something' without a threat.

It is you 'playing stupid' and you do quite well at it.

Nowhere in the article does it state threats are why they 'fear', it couldn't be history/the past that they 'fear' now could it? Nope it's gotta be 'threats' that are not stated in the article, do you love making up your own facts?

You'll do swell around here with the rest of the insane posters.

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I also ask that you look at the article yet again that you decided to make your own facts up about.

So Russian threats made them fear 'terror attacks'.

Interesting...

 

Did I say they were 'friendly'?

What does this however have anything to do with anything? If they were 'friendly' Poland would have had less trouble in hosting them.

Wow some people need to seriously look into what is going on before posting.

 

No you cant. Why does one fear something in the first place? Because THEY FEEL THREATENED. Some people are afraid of dogs. Why? Because for whatever reason they feel threatened by dogs.

Anybody can see that you are wrong here. You yourself stated that they feared a conflict with Russia. They would not fear a conflict with Russia if they did not feel threatened by Russia. Just as Canada does not feel threatened by us so they do not fear us. Dont be naive.

 

I suggest you read again #1

Fear of terror attacks are caused by 'Russian Threats' interesting.

#2 It could very well be 'threats' made by Russia as the reason they fear 'Russia' the article however does not state that = a poll is not stating it = YOU AND YOU ALONE are making this 'cough' fact up.

They could be fearful for many things other than 'threats' being made by Russia in the present including what went on in the past! How about the older citizens who lived through the soviet days!

Are you seriously this mentally challenged?

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BTW feeling 'threatened' is NOT the same as BEING THREATENED!

 

There you go with the ultra concrete black and white thinking again.

Poland and the U.S. have strategic interests in helping each other out. One of Poland's biggest reasons to have a strong ally like the US is to help protect against Russia. Hence, us and Poland see advantages in creating and alliance and sharing capabilities.
So the alliance between the US and Poland has been largely forged as a result of Poland's concerns of an "unpredictable neighbor". Hence any fruit(the actual sharing of capabilities or resources) coming from the alliance could be attributed to Poland's security fears regarding Russia.

I'm not sure why you are arguing. Are you opposed to the alliance? Do you think it's bad to have missile defense in democratic countries that are in some of the world's "tough neighborhoods"?

 

Well since this topic is called Russia Warns: Poland...etc etc etc. I thought I would be focusing on the Russian aspect of the debate. Sort of makes sense to stay on topic. And since I am clearly only talking about the Russian aspect then I am still right.

http://www.canadaeast.com/rss/article/388628

Pretty much one the articles you linked to.

THREATS against Poland.

From wiki. Again clearly showing that fear is a response to threats. The quote you originally cited mentioned fears of Russian conflict against them.

The quote you posted stated they were afraid of Russian conflict. Therefore meaning they feel threatened.

Its almost as if the older Polish people feel THREATENED by Russia. Even today they still do. You keep proving me right.

Real mature.

Why would they be afraid of that? What could possibly make them afraid if it wasnt because they feel threatened?

 

It's becoming clear he'll be soon #2 that deserves to be on IGNORE.

I do not think Russia is a 'peaceful country'

Sorry I simply dislike someone trying to add 'facts' that are not there.

Then after the fact trying to twist and dodge every step of the way to make it be something it is not.

Childish and nothing more.