One week after Saakashvili killed 2,000 Civilians in Ossetia, C. Rice meets him with

UN & OSCE DID.

Russian Minister of Foreign Affairs Sergey Lavrov

http://www.ln.mid.ru/Brp_4.nsf/arh/DCC175D4537DA6F6C325707D00336539?OpenDocument


We all know who that actor is))) To remind you, that wasnt "a large-scale terrorist attack", that was a declaration of WAR to South Ossetia:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6sNb9Z29xE

 

People here just hate Russians because they are rich in minerals and they cannot steal their riches as they did under B. Eltcin.
Or if that's not the reason they just hate Russian to feed the evil in themselves. I have no other explanation for so much baseless hatred.
They (the Russians) have their own people slatered and they are still guilty. The feelings now the Russians have are exactly the same as to tell Americans "it is you who did the 9/11 attack not Bin Laden."

 

In order for Russia to practice self defense, then it's territory needs to be attacked by a non-russian group. That's how I understand this.

hmm. interesting facts you provide there. I never knew South Osetia was part of Russia [that's what you say according to the above statement].

 

Then how is America and NATO practicing self defense in Afghanistan, Iraq, Serbia?

DO YOU SEE YOUR DOUBLE STANDARDS HERE? Or you think you have more rights than the Russians?

 

nope, I don't see any double standards. NATO is an alliance and Russia is a country, as far as I know, unless you prove it otherwise.

 

Don't the Russians fund the rebells in South Ossetia, Didn't Russia bring their milliarty to the border of Georgia before Georgia a attacked and lastly where the hell are all the dead people. They haven't been brought to the morgue or the hospital

 

I you don't want to see the pictures. I am serious. The pictures are shocking. You may not sleep well after seeng them.
But I'll put one only as an example of what really war brings to innocent people.

This is the lunatic that started it all:


Looking at the photos one more time they are too brutal to be posted here.

Here is the link if you want to see them.

http://www.milkavkaz.net/forum/view...&start=0&sid=1fcaed7a0f34b696bb2b66a1d9822f32

 

Even more interesting, that there isnt any single legal document since the break up of USSR that says South Ossetia is a georgian territory

Further more according to history South Ossetia is a single nation (ossetians), that was called Ossetia before Stalin split them in 2: North Ossetia and South Ossetia.

North Ossetia is a russian region bordering with South Ossetia, so it can be the South too (if the ossetian people want to). And the ossetian people want to be independent since 1990.

Russia warned the west: Kosovo example might be dangerous. Although, these 2 (South Ossetia and Abkhaziya) are fighting for ther independence since 1990, long before Kosovo recognition by the west.

 

Didnt Stalin treat these people like crap? I believe he did.
And South Ossetia is a de faco government set up. They are not independent. They are not part of Russia. They are still part of Georgia.

 

Sure he did treat, no doubts on that. He treated everyone like cr*p)) and he was Georgian if wanna know that He was born in the town of Gori

If you are saying that they are part of Georgia that doesnt make it so in reality. Provide facts. With the same success I can say that Kosovo is a Serbian territory.

see the path now? US rulling the world? Not gonna happen, especially within our borders

P.s: I wonder how the Kosovo people will be travelling with a Kosovo passport to the rest 147 countries

 

The Georgian territories that Russia is trying to basically annex are different situations to Kosovo. Serbs were murdering different ethnic types. And Kosovo wants democratic rule. So Kosovo wants a democratic state independent of those who have tried to murder them in the past.

You've heard Russians the last week or so claiming "ethnic cleansing" but that's just a bullshit claim that they hope will give a perceived legitimatcy to the comparison between Kosovo and the territories they are trying to steal.

The two situations are completely different.

 

Saying that, most of the UN countries did not recognize Kosovo, why? Ill tell you why Cos US cannot buy the whole world with their "green revolutions".

A full scale attack with MLR's, tanks and jets on south ossetian capital Tskhinvali (not just strategic & military objects, but including schools, houses, hospitals, everything) + declaration of war to South Ossetia on 8 Aug isnt it an "ethnic cleansing"? If not, what is it then?

There was only ONE battalion of russian peacekeepers, and Georgia attacked with x15 more troops. They have to blame themselves, anyone would respond to that kind of attack. They should be grateful that Tbilisi wasnt bombed in return like they bombed Tskhinvali.

 

It is being a hothead on the part of the Georgian President and trying to get his own country back. He fell right into Russia's trap. Now people like you and Russian officials can try to twist it and call it "ethnic cleansing" so that you can offer it as a favorable comparison to Kosovo.

And how would Russia respond if Georgia was trying to annex part of its territory?

 

Where does it say that South Ossetia is a territory of the country Georgia? De facto its neither georgian or russian territory.

So you do agree that georgian president made a big mistake attacking south ossetia? Thats good, I thought you are still unclear on that.

 

The fact is that, these 45 countries that recognized Kosovo, are all democratic societies and they represent 70% of the world's GDP. So sooner or later, the rest is gonna follow.

As for South Osetia, I will say it again, they cannot be compared to Kosovo. Kosovo is sui generis. Let me explain you why.
It was an autonomous region, and it had all elements that consitute a state: territory, effective government, population, and internal sovereignity.
Did South Osetia have any of these?

Furthermore, Kosovo was created as a multiethnic state, Kosovo people have Kosovo passports, and call themselves Kosovars. While on the other hand, South Osetia people have Russian passports, and call themselves Russians. According to international law, a nation is not entitled more than once to self determination. In other words, Russians have their country, we don't need another Russia. Get it!

 

90% of those 45% voted for Kosovo's independence because Washington ordered them to do so.
Most of the people of those countries didn't share Washington views for independent Kosovo because they knew Washington wants to create tensions all over the world. Divide and conquer policies.

It is a shame the world champion in democracy does not give freedom of choice to others.
Bribing foreign officials, installing their people in power in foreign countries are things practiced by CIA for decades.

Not everybody in America is stupid to believe in the CNN's blatant lies.

 

You really think the greatest nations of the west agree with us most of the time on big issues because we hold special power over them? It's true we have more influence than any other country, but one country couldn't order the greatest nations of Europe to go along with us. The west stands together most of the time on big issues because we share a way of a life, a way of life that we feel is superior to the way of life that Russia has promoted and sometimes forced on others.

 

I do believe.

When France opposed the war on Iraq in some US institution the name "French Fries" was changed to "Fresh Fries". And there was quite a bit of anti-French talk in US.
Some businesses in America even boycotted French products like wine for example which hurt some French businesses.
If you don't play to the tunes coming from Washington, they'll try to "twist your hands, economically or politically."

US politics is not as fair as they tell you on CNN, FOX etc.

 

You think the French decided to go along because we changed the name of French Fries? I hope you keep posting a lot like you have lately. You might turn out to be as much fun as ATV.

 

What happened to you? Didn't you ask for pictures?
Seems you like many other "patriots" came here with big drums to tell everybody how bad the Russians are, and now are nowhere to be found after finding out what the truth really is.