Question to all you CB Publishers out there

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  1. #1
    I'd like to create my own CB product, It is a challenge for me to become a publisher. I plan on releasing 1-2 products to get familiar with the whole publishing experience, not expect to earn much, more of a learning experience, after I get the hang of it, I'll become more serious about it.

    I have several questions

    I see that plenty of Cb products come out every day, many publishers create and publish a product in just a few days. My questions are

    Where do you find the content? For example there are 30 different water4gas clones. What do the publishers do? Do they just rewrite the content of the original product, do they buy PLR and republish it, or they do something else?

    How can someone publish a fairly unique product and within a week (even less) similar or identical products come up, how is this done?

    How can you come up with products in almost every niche (even niches in which you know nothing about), Is there a site where you can buy PLR on every niche?
     
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  2. Supper

    Supper Peon

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    #2
    O-U-T-S-O-U-R-C-E lol

    Edit: That's the answer. Not trying to promote my blog post, which coincidentally is on outsourcing.

    I think you can get one written for $300-500 or more.
     
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  3. Ripped

    Ripped Well-Known Member

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    I looked at your blog post, I'm viewing the links of the companies right now.
    I still don't get how does this work. I outsource someone to write the ebook or what? I think it would be hard to find someone who knows how a car can run a water and write a book about it and it would cost a lot
     
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  4. bl4ckmaN^

    bl4ckmaN^ Well-Known Member

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    #4
    If you are creating a product in the niche, that you know well, I think it will be better to write your own content.

    The ebook is quite easy to create, as long as you have knowledge about a subject. Sales page may be a problem, but if you put some effort, you can do everything yourself.

    Outsourcing product creation is an expensive thing. What I would outsource is graphics, because you want them to look professional. Or if you really know Photoshop well, you can do your own.
     
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  5. Ripped

    Ripped Well-Known Member

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    It's no problem for me getting good graphics, web design and sales letter. I can get a good website with graphics for free, my best friend is a top graphics and web designer, he'll do it for free, and I know of a great copywriter who writes great sales letters for 300-400$.

    I'm wondering about products in niches you know nothing about. Do you outsource for those in most cases? Can't you just find a product with PLR and optimize it? Or is it hard to find a PLR product in niches which are not in the MMO area?

    I'm wondering how did all those guys that made similar products to Earth4Energy did it so fast, I'm not wondering about the sales page/letter, but the ebook itself, did they rewrite/copy E4E, did they find a similar product with PLR or paid someone to write a book on the subject.
     
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  6. Supper

    Supper Peon

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    Well, most of these people do research to write the books. Water 4 Gas rip off may not be the most easiest thing to outsource since it's highly technical.

    Like bl4ckman said, It's probably best to write your own books, but if you want to produce one once a day, you're going to have to outsource it. Really no way around it. But I wouldn't worry about that until you're in need of it.

    On a side note, I was looking on elance at projects available. I didn't see any water 4 gas like things, but I did see a solar water heating system ebook.

    http://www.elance.com/c/rfp/main/rfpBid.pl?jobid=15144655&catId=12522&backurl=aHR0cDovL3d3dy5lbGFuY2UuY29tL3BocC9zZWFyY2gvbWFpbi9lb2xzZWFyY2gucGhwP21hdGNoVHlwZT1wcm9qZWN0I21hdGNoS2V5d29yZHM9ZWJvb2slMjB3YXRlciZzb3J0Qnk9JnNvcnRPcmRlcj0xJnBhZ2U9MSZjYXRGaWx0ZXI9MTAwJnN1YmNhdEZpbHRlcj0mdGltZWxlZnRGaWx0ZXI9JnRpbWVsaXN0ZWRGaWx0ZXI9JmJ1ZGdldEZpbHRlcj0tMSZmZWF0dXJlZHByb2plY3RGaWx0ZXI9ZmFsc2UmZXNjcm93cHJvamVjdEZpbHRlcj1mYWxzZSZiMmJwcm9qZWN0RmlsdGVyPWZhbHNlJmhvdXJseXByb2plY3RGaWx0ZXI9dHJ1ZSZmaXhlZHByb2plY3RGaWx0ZXI9dHJ1ZSZzdGF0dXNGaWx0ZXI9MTAwMzcmYW1leHByb2plY3RGaWx0ZXI9
    That link might not work lol.
     
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  7. BDazzler

    BDazzler Peon

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    #7
    I'd do the following steps:
    1. Take a look at http://www.cb-analytics.com and see what's selling and what's becoming hot.
    2. Pick one thing from that list that you know the most about.
    3. Research it.
    4. Find one thing that it looks like eveyone else missed and use that as your theme.
    5. Use PLR and PD stuff to fill out your product.

    Bottom line though, is that you should know SOMETHING about the niche you're promoting in before you start. If you don't, get with someone who does and do a JV.
     
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  8. Ripped

    Ripped Well-Known Member

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    #8
    I looked up elance, things are starting to clear up.
    I saw many people asking on elance for an ebook in various subjects to be written that will be marketed in CB or similar service.
    You could get someone to write you a decent ebook there for under 500$, So I Guess Elance would be a nice place to get your ebook written. I'd go via elance for starters If I plan to publish an ebook.

    BDazzler, I did what you told me, I don't know anything about most upcoming hot products, I have some knowledge in the MMO area, but I wouldn't publish in that area, I'd do a research and find something new, a nice niche with decent demand and little competition.

    P.S I Saw some Copywriters pulling almost mid $$$$$$ Yearly on Elance!!!!
     
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  9. bl4ckmaN^

    bl4ckmaN^ Well-Known Member

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    #9
    Yeah, rewriting an ebook would also be a good idea, but make sure you change everything.

    If you have good writing skills, then that's a perfect alternative to spending cash for outsourcing.
     
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  10. WilsonA

    WilsonA Active Member

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    #10
    you can also check the warrior forum, you would get good writers but they
    won't come cheap. Most good writers based on what I know can write on
    most topics (they research before they write). Good luck buddy
     
    WilsonA, Aug 18, 2008 IP
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    web_18designer Peon

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    #11
    Most "Clone" Products are just rewrites of another product - they are mostly useless.

    Water4Gas Products are in most cases rewrites of the same book - they buy a similar product and get someone to rewrite it in their own words - thats why they are crap.

    Obviously this because its very difficult to find someone technical enough to write such books (and it would cost a lot) - most of the rewrites are done by normal writers that dont know anything about what they write - they just read and rewrite without knowing what they are writing about.


    I know that you wownt like to hear this, but if you are asking such basic questions about content you are not ready to be a publisher - learn how to be an affiliate first then move to publisher slowly. Dont try to run before you can barely walk or you will fall and get hurt!

    cheers
     
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  12. Ripped

    Ripped Well-Known Member

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    I'm not in a rush, I'm doing well as an affiliate, I was just thinking about publishing in order to learn how it's done. You gotta start somewhere, I've never published anything, thus I know nothing about the publishing process, that's why I ask such basic questions.
    However, I found the answer to my questions here, thanks to the help of the people here. I'm not gonna rush to be a publisher, maybe I'll find a niche and work on it little by little in my spare time.
     
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    #13
    haha,very good explain
     
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  14. dcristo

    dcristo Illustrious Member

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    #14
    I'm not a publisher but I think I know the answer. There are ghostwriters which will write content for ebooks. This is why the majority of ebooks on CB are rubbish. They are written by people which are not experts in their field.
     
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    Ripped Well-Known Member

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    Dcristo I think you're right, that explains why most CB products are crappy.

    But what about random old dudes, like in the newly published Renewable ome Energy products :D
    If you hire a ghostwriter to write you the ebook, do publishers in most cases put up random old dudes in order to make the sales page look more credible i.e do they make up a fictional character which is supposedly an expert in the field in order to gain credibility when in reality a random ghostwriter has written the ebook (again not talking about all products, only a portion of them)
     
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  16. tonyrocks

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    #16
    I create/write/build ALL of my projects. Nothing was ever outsourced....I guess that explains my failures. hehe
     
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  17. Supper

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    #17
    Credible is a subjective word. It really is. Your job isn't necessarily to educate or give a good product, but to meet the immediate emotional gratification of a buyer.

    Just look at infomercials on television. It seems like each week there is a new weight loss method out there for you to buy.

    Obviously, something isn't working. I think the main reason is that people are lazy buggers and wouldn't do any of the "real work" to get weight loss, so fad ideas like hip hop abs and crap like this sell good because they're retardedly stupid (as in they defy science)

    I haven't look at any of these earth energy like products. I have an electrical engineering degree and I'm sure I wouldn't be impressed from a science point of view. But I'm sure a brain dead slack jawed yookle would like it. And that's really who you're selling too.
     
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  18. adking

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    #18
    water for gas products are already banned from adwords...
    and like you said there are already over 30 clones of them....
    and the market too is pretty saturated(especially those who promote to their lists)...
    So why do you wanna enter such a saturated market??
    Sent you a pm too...
     
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  19. Guidance

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    #19
    You have to search some writers in a good outsorcing websites. Its not just cheaper, but you also have a lot of choices.
     
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    mmd10 Peon

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    Knowing all about a subject or being able to find out about a subject is the job of whoever you outsource to. If they read your description/ad on what you want, and they accept it, then it's up to them to produce. You just have to be sure to inform them that you'll be using something like copyscape.com or dupecop.com to be sure the finished product is not just a bunch of duplicated content.
     
    mmd10, Sep 7, 2008 IP