Will India forfeit Kashmir to Islamic separatist movements?

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Kashmir is a Muslim land! Pakistan was made for Muslims and that is why Kasmir belongs to Pakistan! The separatist movement in Kashmir is nothing new! It is likely to happen! Before you start saying that the muslims in Kasmir are wrong you should think about how you would react if someone you don't like comes and starts living in your house!

Muslims are not terrorists! They fight for their rights!

What the hindus did in Gujrat was terrorism and at that time no one called them hindu terrorist but when it is about muslims then they are called Islamists!

Think before you speak!

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If Pakistan was made for Muslims, then what are 150 million Muslims doing in India? Why didn't they move to Pakistan?

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Kashmir is a Muslim land! Pakistan was made for Muslims and that is why Kasmir belongs to Pakistan! The separatist movement in Kashmir is nothing new! It is likely to happen! Before you start saying that the muslims in Kasmir are wrong you should think about how you would react if someone you don't like comes and starts living in your house!

Muslims are not terrorists! They fight for their rights!

What the hindus did in Gujrat was terrorism and at that time no one called them hindu terrorist but when it is about muslims then they are called Islamists!

Think before you speak!
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From your post, I can conclude two things.

1. You have no idea whatsoever about Kashmir and the history of Indian independence.

2. You don't think before you post some crap.

Now, on to my argument.

Let's get something fucking straight. Kashmir is not meant for Muslims. Kashmir is a part of India in which both Hindus and Muslims coexist. These Islamic separatist movements have systematically driven out a huge number of Kashmiri Pundits from their homeland.

If Pakistan is meant to be a Muslim country and India is meant to be a Hindu country, then why the fuck do you think India accommodates millions of Muslims today?

What the Hindus did in Gujarat was terrorism? Oh really? And what Muslim terrorists did to the passengers in that train was an act of goodwill? Or what about the Mumbai blasts? What about Hyderabad blasts? What about Coimbatore blasts? What about the parliamentary attack?

I suggest you shut your mouth and stay out of this thread. It's meant only for educated, saner people who can have a civilized discussion.

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What the RSS/BJP/VHP hooligans did in Gujarat was terrorism, worse, it was a systematic targeting of Muslims in Gujarat. More than 3000 were killed, 2,00,000 were driven from their homes, hundreds of women were raped and burnt alive. It was a massacre. I know, I am a Gujrati Muslim.

Oh! Did Muslims burn a train?

The then Prime Minister condemned it as a blot on the reputation of India. Do these perpetrators of these crimes think they will be forgiven? Not a chance.

Naroda Patia
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Located just across the road from the State Reserve Police (SRP) quarters, Naroda Patia was the site of some of the most brutal attacks in Ahmedabad. On February 28 at least sixty-five people were killed by a 5,000-strong mob that torched the entire locality within minutes. Countless others sustained severe burns and other injuries. Women and girls were gang-raped in public view before being hacked and burned to death. Homes were looted and burned while the community mosque, the Noorani Masjid, was destroyed using exploding gas cylinders. Extensive use and access to Liquefied Petroleum Gas (LPG) cylinders has also been cited as evidence of official collusion.

Naroda Patia used to be a mixed community of Hindus and Muslims. The nearly one thousand Muslims were in a minority and lived in a slum facing the state transport workshop.25 Most surviving Muslim residents are now scattered in relief camps. Human Rights Watch visited Naroda Patia three weeks after the attacks. The Muslim homes were completely burned while the Hindu homes stood unscathed. The area's mosque, the Noorani Masjid, just across the road from the SRP post, had also been destroyed. According to one human rights activist who visited the site of the burned mosque soon after the attacks, at least sixteen gas cylinders, used as explosive devices, remained inside the mosque.27 A thirteen-year-old boy described the role of the police during the attack:

The police was with them. The police killed seventeen- and eighteen-year-olds. The mob also burned down our home. At 10 a.m. they went after our mosque. Thirty to forty tear gas shells were released by the police as we, about fifty boys, were trying to save the mosque.... They killed one seventeen-year-old and eight to ten other boys were injured.... We kept calling the police but no one came.... The police would pick up the phone and hang up when they heard it was from Naroda Patia.28
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Another eyewitness interviewed by Human Rights Watch added: "When we tried to run, the police started firing. It was morning time. Many were hiding in Masjid Chali [lane]. We came here [to the camp] early on the morning of March 2."29 Fifty-five-year-old Salima Banu, a resident of Naroda Patia was a witness as her son was shot and killed by the police:

My son was running to save his life and the police shot him. Our home was behind Noorani Masjid. They were coming to set the mosque on fire. Then we started running. A bullet hit my son's arm and then his stomach. No one was answering the police phone. The police took their side and not ours. My son's name was Shafiq. He was eighteen years old... No one came to help. He was suffering so much. His arm fell off. I have received nothing from the government.... So many people are also missing. Some have lost their mother, their son, their father.30
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Samuda Bhen, a mother of two, lost all her valuables in the looting and burning on February 28 and the days that followed and identified members of the Bajrang Dal, Shiv Sena, and the police as the main culprits:

They took my daughter's dowry. This is my daughter [she pointed to her]. She is seventeen. Her name is Mumtaz. She was supposed to get married. Now the groom won't come. They also burned my son's rickshaw. They burned everything after we left. During the attack they were screaming "Kill them. Cut them." We left on March 1. We stayed at home until then. The police sided with them. They were Bajrang Dal people. They were wearing saffron bandannas. There were also Shiv Sena people. First the police came, they searched the mosque, they were checking for weapons to see if it was safe for the others to come. Then the others came. The police station is right near us. The police was with them for three full days. We kept telling them to help us.31
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Forty-year-old Naseem Banu told us: "Wherever we hid, the police showed them where we were. The police remained standing when our homes were burned down."32

Attacks on Women
Naroda Patia residents interviewed by Human Rights Watch also witnessed rapes and other forms of sexual violence against Muslim women and girls during the attacks. A female eyewitness told Human Rights Watch, "they raped them, cut them and then threw them in a well. They cut them with swords. Everything is gone, you won't even find dogs there."33 Samuda also witnessed the raping and killing of young girls: "They took young girls, raped them, cut them and then they burned them."34 Others simply did not have the words to describe the attack: "You won't be able to bear it if we tell you. They are scared, they won't speak, people have been asking for days what happened. What difference has it made? We don't want to go back there. Our lives are in danger there [Naroda Patia].... We won't go back to Patia; we will go anywhere else. We even left without our shoes, all our hard-earned saving are gone."35 One female resident said, "Some girls even threw themselves into the fire, so as not to get raped."36 A ten-year-old girl added, "I saw it also, they cut them down the middle."37 Testimonies collected by the Citizens' Initiative, a coalition of over twenty-five NGOs, and submitted to the National Human Rights Commission are replete with incidents of gang rapes of Muslim girls and women and the role of the police during the attacks, particularly in Naroda Patia. These testimonies are cited as transcribed by the Citizens' Initiative. A resident of Naroda Patia, Ahmedabad testified that eight out of eleven family members were killed on February 28, two after being raped. The surviving three members sustained serious injuries:

It was morning and I was cooking. My husband, my three children and I were in my house while my mother-in-law, my brother-in-law and his wife along with their three children was in the adjoining house. A mob of 5,000 came and we started running. We were cornered from all the sides. SRP (State Reserve Police) personnel were also chasing us. It was 6:30 by now in the evening. The mob caught hold of my husband and hit him on his head twice with the sword. They threw petrol in his eyes and then burned him. My sister-in-law was stripped and raped. She had a three-month baby in her lap. They threw petrol on her and the child from her lap was thrown in the fire. My brother-in-law was hit in the head with the sword and he died on the spot. His six-year-old daughter was also hit with the sword and thrown in the fire. My mother-in-law had with her the grandson who was four years of age and he was burnt too. We were that time hiding on the terrace of a building. My mother-in-law with her heavy body was unable to climb the stairs so she was on the ground. My mother-in-law told them to take away whatever money she had but to spare the children. They took away all the money and jewelry and burnt the children with petrol. ([My] mother-in-law was raped too). I witnessed all this. Unmarried girls from my street were stripped, raped and burnt. A 14-year-old such girl was killed by piercing an iron rod in her stomach. All this ended at 2:30 A.M. The ambulance came on the scene and I sat in it along with the bodies of my husband and children. I have injury marks on both my thighs and left hand that was caused by the police beating. My husband, my daughter and son had 48%, 95% and 15% burns respectively. Both my husband and daughter died in the hospital after three days.... The police was on the spot but helping the mob. We fell in their feet but they said they were ordered from above (not to help). Since the telephone wires were snapped we could not inform the fire brigade.38
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Like hundreds of others, a resident of Naroda Patia witnessed the gang rape of girls and women. The names of the victims have been omitted to protect their privacy:

We were cooking and were informed to be in the house only as there was tension in the area. We went to the nearby society [neighborhood] and took shelter on the terrace. People from the Hindu society told us to take shelter in their houses. There were only men in there and none of the women and children. Then they told us to escape towards Naroda (an area). We requested them to allow us escape towards the SRP (colony). SRP said, "24 hours have been given to beat you up." Society (place of refuge) brought us out on the road and told us to go to Naroda. We disagreed knowing that it is a far place. So they started beating us with sticks, hockey sticks and pipes. They accused us that we had come there to riot and asked us to get out. We came out to face a big mob armed with sharp weapons, kerosene and petrol cans.... All adult males were then beaten, fallen on the ground and burnt. The residents of the gopinath society [neighborhood] segregated young girls (Muslims) and made them stand on one side. They were raped and we watched this as some of us were on the terrace.

We were 400-500 people on the terrace.... The girls were stripped and then two men held them down by legs and arms. Those who raped were 20-25 in number. The girls screamed so loud that even now when I remember my blood boils.
They [the attackers] were given twenty-four-hours time (to beat us). If we were given even two hours time we would have shown them (dealt with them). I know the face of the persons who raped. The rape started at 6:00 in the evening until 9:00 at night. The girls were then burnt. I still remember their loud screams. When Asif Khan, a 25-year-old youth pleaded SRP to let us go he was beaten up badly and he managed with difficulty to get out of their hold. We can identify the SRP men. We can also identify the residents of gopinath society.... 11 of our youth died in private gun firing.39
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Gulmarg Society
In the neighborhood of Gulmarg Society, Chamanpura, Ahmedabad, over 250 people took refuge on the morning of February 28 in the home of Muslim Ehsan Jaffrey, a former member of parliament. An ordeal that began at 10:30 a.m. ended seven hours later and left at least sixty-five dead, including Jaffrey himself, who was hacked and burned to death. The closest police station was less than a kilometer away. The two Ahmedabad Home Guards already stationed at Jaffrey's home only had sticks as weapons and according to eyewitnesses interviewed by Human Rights Watch provided no protection; one said the guards "were watching and laughing as the attacks took place."40 The telephone lines were cut after the neighborhood's homes were set on fire. Armed with swords, pipes, acid bottles, kerosene, petrol, hockey sticks, stones, and trishuls, the mob was unrestrained for six hours. Among the perpetrators identified were workers and local officials of the VHP and Bajrang Dal.41 Thirty-eight-year-old Mehboob Mansoori lost eighteen family members in the attack at Gulmarg Society. He described the day's sequence of events to Human Rights Watch (full testimony in introduction):

They burnt my whole family. At 10:30 a.m. the stone throwing started. First there were 200 people then 500 from all over, then more. We were 200-250 people. We threw stones in self-defense. They had swords, pipes, soda-lemon bottles, sharp weapons, petrol, kerosene, and gas cylinders. They began shouting, `Maro, kato,' [Kill them, cut them] and "Mian ko maro." (Kill the Muslims). I hid on the third floor. Early in the day at 10:30 the police commissioner came over and said don't worry. He spoke to Jaffrey and said something would work out then left. The name of the commissioner of police that visited in the morning is P.C. Pandey, commissioner of police Ahmedabad.... At 3:30 p.m. they started cutting people up, and by 4:30 p.m. it was game over. Ehsan Jaffrey was also killed. He was holding the door closed. Then the door broke down. They pulled him out and hit him with a sword across the forehead, then across the stomach, then on his legs.... They then took him on the road, poured kerosene on him and burned him. There was no police at all. If they were there then this wouldn't have happened. Eighteen people from my family died. All the women died. My brother, my three sons, one girl, my wife's mother, they all died. My boys were aged ten, eight, and six. My girl was twelve years old. The bodies were piled up. I recognized them from parts of their clothes used for identification. They first cut them and then burned them. Other girls were raped, cut, and burned. First they took their jewelry, I was watching from upstairs. I saw it with my own eyes. If I had come outside, I would also have been killed. Four or five girls were treated this way. Two married women also were raped and cut. Some on the hand, some on the neck.
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Fifty-three-year-old Mansoori Abdulbhai, also a resident of Gulmarg Society, Chamanpura lost nineteen family members in the attack. He told Human Rights Watch:

Nineteen members of my family were killed. My wife, my mother, my son, my daughters-in-law, my brother's daughter-in-law, and others. We found fourteen of the bodies, five are still missing. Those fourteen are buried here [at a mass grave site next to the Dariyakhan Ghummat camp in Shahibaug]. Sixty-two people were killed there, twenty-nine bodies have not been found. First they cut people so they couldn't run and then they set them on fire. One or two women were taken aside and gang-raped. After five hours the police came and brought us here. It was so well planned. We buried fourteen members of my family here on March 7.43
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As with Naroda Patia, even pregnant women were not spared. The husband of an eighteen-year-old woman and resident of Gulmarg Society, Chamanpura told the Citizens' Initiative: "She was pregnant and it was the 9th month of the pregnancy. Her house was attacked by a large mob. Her womb was cut open with a sharp weapon and the unborn baby was taken out and both mother and the child were burnt dead."44 Twenty-three-year-old Rasida Bhen, Ilias's wife, still bore visible head injuries at the time of the interview with Human Rights Watch. She spoke to Human Rights Watch about the murder of her husband's brother and his wife, twenty-three-year-old Aslam Usman Bhai, and twenty-one-year-old Naseem Bano:

They pulled them out and cut them up. When we came out then we saw that he was cut in the stomach, the chest and the head. They came with trishuls. My sister-in-law was burnt. First they took her jewelry. Then took her into the kitchen and exploded the gas cylinder. They wanted to get rid of all the evidence. They had been married for fifteen months and she was five months pregnant.
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Referring to attacks on other women, Rasida added:

First they took everyone's jewelry. Then they raped the women, then they cut them up, and then they burned them. They should get as strict a punishment as possible.... I was hit with a pipe. We ran outside when the gas cylinder exploded and then later the police came and we left.
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A forty-five-year-old man named Yousuf Bhai told Human Rights Watch that the police commissioner "betrayed" the victims:

They wanted to leave by the railroad behind Jaffrey's house, but the police commissioner said, " No, don't you trust me? You must stay here." Jaffrey even said, "Kill me and leave them alone." After the police brought people here [the camp] then all night they set bodies on fire, so there could be no cases against them, so there could be no evidence. Without police support, none of this could have happened.49
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It's so easy for you guys to take sides, huh? Did I ever justify Godhra riots in this thread? I talked about the bomb blasts in various parts of the country and the attack on Kar Sevaks in reply to the moron who commented here on "Hindu terrorists".

Honestly, do you think Hindus are a bunch of intolerable goons? Had that been the case, do you think the population of Muslims would have grown in India the way it has grown after partition?

Godhra incident was a one-off incident. It's bad, no doubt. But what's worse is, there are a lot of people who try to accuse Hindus of intolerance stating that one incident.

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It's so easy for you guys to take sides, huh? Did I ever justify Godhra riots in this thread? I talked about the bomb blasts in various parts of the country and the attack on Kar Sevaks in reply to the moron who commented here on "Hindu terrorists".

Honestly, do you think Hindus are a bunch of intolerable goons? Had that been the case, do you think the population of Muslims would have grown in India the way it has grown after partition?

Godhra incident was a one-off incident. It's bad, no doubt. But what's worse is, there are a lot of people who try to accuse Hindus of intolerance stating that one incident.
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People who did that to Gujrati Muslims were not Hindus... They were maniacs, demons. The real Hindus assisted Muslims and protected them from sure death.

I am sure you have never seen kar sevaks except on TV. You'll know when you face them. Today, it was Muslims, tomorrow it can be your family. Did you see what they did to my people? Do you think they should be forgiven?

Hindus are good people. Blaming them for this would be wrong. I blame the RSS, BJP, Bajrang Dal, VHP for these acts. And they will surely pay for it, for decades to come...

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People who did that to Gujrati Muslims were not Hindus... They were maniacs, demons. The real Hindus assisted Muslims and protected them from sure death.

I am sure you have never seen kar sevaks except on TV. You'll know when you face them. Today, it was Muslims, tomorrow it can be your family. Did you see what they did to my people? Do you think they should be forgiven?

Hindus are good people. Blaming them for this would be wrong. I blame the RSS, BJP, Bajrang Dal, VHP for these acts. And they will surely pay for it, for decades to come...
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I've seen Kar Sevaks in person, FYI. I've been to RSS meets and all that stuff. And frankly, their ideology never impressed me. So, I'm happy being agnostic and irreligious. Similarly, the closed mindset of Muslim mullahs doesn't impress me either. That's precisely why I started this thread. I hate religious extremism. And what's happening in Kashmir and other parts of India is Muslim extremism. What happened in Gujarat is Hindu extremism. Neither of them is any good for the country.

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Who said "A lot of Indians no longer feel that Kashmir is a part of India." - Is that Flash News kind of thing or what?

Did they tell you.

Nobody is feeling that way
I am not a Muslim, but stop doing this

Haha , stop posting negative threads about religion.

Thank you
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Who said "A lot of Indians no longer feel that Kashmir is a part of India." - Is that Flash News kind of thing or what?

Did they tell you.

Nobody is feeling that way
I am not a Muslim, but stop doing this

Haha , stop posting negative threads about religion.

Thank you
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Who in the hell told you that? Can you buy a single piece of land in Kashmir today? Can you visit Kashmir any time you want? Hell; can you even imagine living in Kashmir for a month without getting killed either by the terrorists or by army?

The point is, son, you don't understand shit about Kashmir. But the bigger problem is, a lot of Indians like you, who have no idea of Kashmir's problem, talk about it.

Before you post such stuff next time, please do some research. Else, it only reflects on your intelligence.

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Wow you are really using some good and great language In our forum.

It seems that you went to Kashmir and did lot of RESEARCH there like

1) Tried to stay there for one month
2) Tried to but land in Kashmir

Sorry UNCLE , next time I will do some research and I will post.

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Wow you are really using some good and great language In our forum.

It seems that you went to Kashmir and did lot of RESEARCH there like

1) Tried to stay there for one month
2) Tried to but land in Kashmir

Sorry UNCLE , next time I will do some research and I will post.
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Oh dear; you still don't get my point, do you? Maybe I should try to put it in a way that even you can understand it.

I didn't claim to do any of the things you mentioned in your post. I simply asked you - can any Indian living in any other state imagine buying a property in Kashmir or moving there?

The answer to that question is no. If you have doubts, pack your bags and go to Kashmir and live there for a month or two. If you manage to come back alive, we'll have the discussion again here.

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If you have doubts, pack your bags and go to Kashmir and live there for a month or two. If you manage to come back alive, we'll have the discussion again here.

Thanks.
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Uncle, you din't understand my point.
I think you became so old to understand all these things.

You were mentioning about some research.
I thought you did all these things that you started a thread in our forum

Am I clear uncle?

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Uncle, you din't understand my point.
I think you became so old to understand all these things.

You were mentioning about some research.
I thought you did all these things that you started a thread in our forum

Am I clear uncle?
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When I opened this thread, I had mentioned two things. First, about the Amarnath issue and second, about Shariah Law being implemented in Kashmir. I've backed up both these claims with valid proof.

But still you haven't answered any of my questions. Can you buy a property in Kashmir today? Can you move to Kashmir from any other state and start living there?

Try answering these questions first.

PS: And don't call me uncle. I'm young enough to kick anyone's ass.

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When I opened this thread, I had mentioned two things. First, about the Amarnath issue and second, about Shariah Law being implemented in Kashmir. I've backed up both these claims with valid proof.

But still you haven't answered any of my questions. Can you buy a property in Kashmir today? Can you move to Kashmir from any other state and start living there?

Try answering these questions first.

PS: And don't call me uncle. I'm young enough to kick anyone's ass.
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Article 370 of the Indian Constitution gives special status to Kashmir. So no one except a Kashmiri can buy land in that state. Even the President of India cannot buy property in Jammu & Kashmir.

This anomaly in the constitution has, therefore, stunted the economic growth in Kashmir, alienated its people, and prevented full integration of that state into the Republic of India.

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Article 370 of the Indian Constitution gives special status to Kashmir. So no one except a Kashmiri can buy land in that state. Even the President of India cannot buy property in Jammu & Kashmir.

This anomaly in the constitution has, therefore, stunted the economic growth in Kashmir, alienated its people, and prevented full integration of that state into the Republic of India.
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That is precisely my problem. Why in the hell should we treat Kashmir as a special entity when it's a part of the country? Didn't Hari Singh annex it to India? If an Indian can't buy properties, can't visit the place any time he wants, and can't live there safely, why in the hell is Kashmir called a part of India? Does it make any sense?

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That is precisely my problem. Why in the hell should we treat Kashmir as a special entity when it's a part of the country? Didn't Hari Singh annex it to India? If an Indian can't buy properties, can't visit the place any time he wants, and can't live there safely, why in the hell is Kashmir called a part of India? Does it make any sense?
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We don't know what the situation was in 1947. What were Nehru and Sardar Patel thinking? Why did the authors of the constitution make that provision? Was it debated in the parliament? We don't know... Maybe the decision was right then, but there should have been a deadline for this provision to be scrapped.

We have some pathetic politicians here...Look at the issue of reservation in IITs and IIMs. They want even the faculty to be replaced according to reservation percentages. The country is going to the dogs. What we need is better education.

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We don't know what the situation was in 1947. What were Nehru and Sardar Patel thinking? Why did the authors of the constitution make that provision? Was it debated in the parliament? We don't know... Maybe the decision was right then, but there should have been a deadline for this provision to be scrapped.

We have some pathetic politicians here...Look at the issue of reservation in IITs and IIMs. They want even the faculty to be replaced according to reservation percentages. The country is going to the dogs. What we need is better education.
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True. Better education is the key here. But sadly, I don't see any revolutionary changes being brought about in the field of education in this country.

PS: Do you live in India or some other country? I'm just curious.

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True. Better education is the key here. But sadly, I don't see any revolutionary changes being brought about in the field of education in this country.

PS: Do you live in India or some other country? I'm just curious.
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Yes... I've lived in Western Maharastra, near Pune, for most of my life... Recently, after graduation, I've moved to Hyderabad in Andhra Pradesh. Where do you live?

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Yes... I've lived in Western Maharastra, near Pune, for most of my life... Recently, after graduation, I've moved to Hyderabad in Andhra Pradesh. Where do you live?
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I live in Coimbatore, Tamilnadu. We're neighbors in a sense.

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I live in Coimbatore, Tamilnadu. We're neighbors in a sense.
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I have a couple of friends in Tamilnadu. One is in the Army SSB in Madras Barracks, another one in a college studying Aeronautical Engineering, still another working for Infosys. Its a good place, except people speak very little Hindi

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