One week after Saakashvili killed 2,000 Civilians in Ossetia, C. Rice meets him with

Because you are genius. Just like Bush. It requires talent and only special people have it. Not everybody. I think if you start a new party or a religion you'll have great success. You can even open a news channel.

 

isn't south ossetia a part of georgia according to international law now? So, practicly the georgians attacked their own territory. And then russia invaded Georgia

 

The people in South Ossetia were attempting to "breakaway" from Georgia with help from mother Russia.

Georgia sent in the troops to quash their rebellion which triggered a full on-scale invasion from Russia. Georgia only has 37,000 military personnel and Russia has 1.3 million.

The Georgian President miscalculated the response of the "Soviet" style Democracy in Moscow quite badly.

 

Hei, wait, i was just sharing my thoughts. Why are you attacking me? I haven't attacked you and i won't do it. I thought we were sharing thougts but i see you're taking it personal. Whatever. I won't pass through this thread anymore .

Have a nice day.

 

so, if the georgians are really the bad guy here, why did Russia block all georgian websites so that only the russian side of the story was told? This wouldn't happened I guess if the ruassians had nothing to hide.

 

Get the facts right first.
And read, read, read ..... don't be like the average Joe.

Saakashvili signed a truce with the Ossetians on 08/7/08 a few hours later he launches an attack on civilians and Russian peacekeepers killing 15 Russian peace keepers and about 2000 Ossetians. Those 2000 Ossetians are Russian citizens too.

Israel for example devasted Lebanon over a few killed soldiers. So nothing unusual with the Russian response protecting her citizens.

Anyway, you have made up your mind and truth and facts don't matter to you.
Have a wodnerful day.

 

You see things that don't exist. I was also thinking people will condemn war criminals, but they got verbal protection on DP too.
With double standards applied as standards one can forget about peace and stability.
Have a blessed day.

 

Then stop posting all this rubish. Seriously this is the first time you have been right. Enough is enough. You are saying the same stuff over and over again by starting several topics on the same thing. Which is really against the rules. You change the title a little bit but then end up ranting your hypocritical stuff again and again.

 

Well said baconbits, ST12 gained too much antipathy for Russia with all the parroting the same assay a milion times. People already noticed how subjective, undebatable and intolerant you are, assuming whatever you say or quote are facts and truths whereas all other differing opinions on the matter are propaganda of the pitiful brainwashed.

Oh btw, you claimed you are an American all the way when it was convenient, now it's crystal clear you are of some Soviet origin. That's rich when you accuse people of dishonesty, meantime adopting it from the basic level.

You should leave talking for Russia to NFS, and stop further embarrasing yourself.

 

I guess ST12 is just a devoted member of the Russian propaganda machine.

They are trying to tell the world that the Russians are the victim, and Georgia the agressor. They even attacked Georgian websites shutting them down so that the world can hear only their story.

 

LeoSeo we saw your positions in a number of ocasions.
Do you think you have been consistent in your views or they change depending on the people involved?
As far as telling the truth, it must be said as many times as needed so those who have conscience can make their own inteligent judgement.

I doubt you can make one for the time being since you still live with the mentality left from the Otoman times in which only turks and muslims had rights. Everyone else was by law subcitizen.

Most Americans are very good people and they deserve to know the truth. Bush is not giving them the truth.
By telling the truth I provide public service to the comunity.

 

Honestly I would be ashamed to have somebody like you in my community so please do not provide any service anywhere near me.

 

I don't know if i ever been inconsistent, i probably have, but i don't think, and i mean it, anyone in this forum have ever been more biased over a subject and propagandive than you have been over this recent war.

That's your problem, even though you know nothing about one's positions you "figure" them out and try to make them fit in the enemy model you created in your mind. That happened on this very topic with iul, and with debunked and browntwn earlier and you were lightning fast to announce pretty much anybody who doesn't agree with you as anti-Russian throughout these whole war topics you started. There's nothing worth reading in one's posts who can even lie about his origin, if you love Russia so much avoid talking about it's issues, you are ruining the image, believe me.

 

I'll prove it.

When US recognized Kosovo, Turkey did so too. And you defended Turkey's position bringing some lame excuses.
But when it comes for Turkey to let the Kurds have their own country you switch gear to reverse.
Your excuse was "Kosovo was not handled by the UN properley ........ ", but you have handled the Kurdish problem properly right?

You are ready to support muslim separtists anywhere in the world, but when it comes for you to support separatists in your own country you are nowhere to be found.
Do you see your double standards?

 

You are entitled to your opinion and way of thinking. Unfortunatly for you Bush is leaving soon.
I hope another moron that also has no regards to the truth does not rule America for 4 more years for we gonna become 3th world country.
Have a grate day.

 

Do us a favour and never post in the p&r again. Have an amazing day

 

OK, so? who gave Russia the right to invade other countries for something they do within their own borders?

 

Hey dude, you are the last person on earth to talk about Kosovo. Leave it alone, OK. You know nothing about Kosovo. Just the fact that you call Kosovo muslim separatists tells me how ignorant you are.

You always try to bend the truth the way it fits you and your propaganda. Here in Kosovo we have a saying, "If one person tells you you are drunk, don't take it seriously, but if two persons tell you that you are drunk, then maybe you should start holding onto something to prevent falling." I guess you get my point. [and yes, a "muslim separatist" country has jokes about being drunk ]

 

First off, that topic you started was directly towards Turkey with pure hostility, with seperatist encouragement. Just because you can push hard and find similarities between two events does not mean they actually are anywhere close, and i never changed gear, there are over 40-50 countries who recognized Kosovo, if you can't see the difference between a global recognition and directly encouraging seperatism then you are too blinded with your hatred to comprehend the issues.

You can propose the Chechens do not live in Russia against their will despite all the violance and not to forget the difference of religions, on the other hand, you support the seperatist Kurdish movement when there is even no religious issue, with so-called naive will saying that they are oppressed and live against their will, and after this you can come hee and talk about double standards. You are against seperatism when it is about Russia, but you are for it when it's about Turks or Muslims generally, i can't reach your level of double standard even if i tried hard, really.

Second off, in this particular event, the main reason Russia puts forward as it's rightful is that after Kosovo, Pandora's box is open so respecting other countries sovereignties are not necessary anymore, an excuse will do, like Russia uses the death of peacekeepers to intervene an internationally recognized "Georgian territory". So If you actually defend sovereignity with honesty, you should oppose it, if you don't oppose this, which you clearly don't, then you can't say a word for Kosovo, because that's already your pretext in doing all these, you are no better.

Seriously, after this Russia-Georgia threads, you have no credibility left as for being objective or honest, you just want Russia as powerful as the United States, and whenever a double standart is conducted by Russia, you just say "US does it too", so you are not the least bit better than the people you accuse of, coming from you, words like truth, fact, honesty, double standards lost meaning, you use these words to define opinions which dispute with yours, just like US calls anyone who poses conflict with their interests as terrorists, again you are no better.

If you do not mean the Israeli-Palestinian conflict as i don't see that as seperatism, there is not one seperatist movement or action i have ever defended, be it religious or ideology motivated, none, including Kosovo, as i have stated on that thread. As i stated above, you just "figure" one's positions from your imaginative mind and try to make them fit in the enemy model you created, Mr. fake American.

Accept it, you are way too obssessed with Muslims and anti-Russian(which is what you call whoever is not pro-Russian) campaigns to an extent of paranoia, you can't judge the events on a discussible basis.

 

Glad they did! Russian info sites were DDosed before that and all access to .RU domains was blocked in Georgia. You missed that point, mate