One week after Saakashvili killed 2,000 Civilians in Ossetia, C. Rice meets him with

One week after Saakashvili killed 2,000 Civilians in Ossetia, C. Rice meets him with a handshake and a smile.



Remember this photo too, (D. Rumsfeld and S. Hussain shaking hands and smiling) right after Saddam Hussain gassed about two thousands Kurds?

 

You keep repeating this number of 2,000 civilians killed by Georgia. Where do you get that number from?

Nobody except Russia seems to think that is an accurate number.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/252...ince-as-South-Ossetia-conflict-escalates.html

The victims themselves saying that, what else do you need to hear ?

Enough of LIES Saakashvili!

Mr. Saakashvili said just now LIVE on BBC channel, that Russian army destroyed south ossetian capital Tskhinvali.

Now answer me this, Mr. Saakashvili: Why the hell 34,000 of south ossetians run away to Russia if Russian army as he said bombed their homes ? DOES NOT MAKE SENSE, sorry, he is too stupid. Condoleeza knows everything, she just backs up this idiot as he he helped her in Iraq.

Why the hell Rice is not going to south ossetia ? Ill tell you why, cos the south ossetian people themselves will rip her apart for helping georgian army to bomb their capital.

 

?????
It's only the brainwashed population that believes Russia attacked Georgia.
It is impossible to have a fair discussion with people who deny the facts and the truth.



............But Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, speaking at virtually the same time, said the separatist Georgian regions at the center of the conflict appear destined for independence.

"After what happened, it's unlikely Ossetians and Abkhazians will ever be able to live together with Georgia in one state," he said in a joint news conference in the Russian resort of Sochi with German Chancellor Angela Merkel............

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080815/ap_on_re_eu/georgia_russia;_ylt=AqxRaFYwdxSJ5VEgzIx9JKKs0NUE


This statement speaks volumes. Now the terrorist supporters can whine and mumble as long as they want.
The Ossetians will no longer be masacred and will have the full protection of Russia.

 

You know thats the georgian problem really, South Ossetia and Abkhaziya were a part of Soviet Union, and when it collapsed their did not want to join Georgia, and they will never want to join Georgia after 2 WARS against Georgia (the first one in 1992-94).

They can send 100000 observers and make a voting. 95% of population will be against joining Georgia, thats how things should be done Mr. Saakashvili, not bombing them and taking by force!

 

There is no doubt Russia attacked Georgia. The only real question is the extent of Georgia's attack on South Ossetia first.

I have doubts anywhere near 2,000 South Ossetian civilians were killed prior to Russia's attack on Georgia.

After your great rant about Western sources... all you are offering to support the notion that 2,000 South Ossetians were killed is that they say so?

One thing I do know is that you are probably the least objective person discussing this issue.

 

Of course we did attack their military bases in Senaki and Gori! Would you suggest us to seat and wait till their troops gather and attack south ossetia for 2nd time?

They made a BIG mistake on 8 Aug when they attacked Tskhinvali and our peacekeepers, they got a solid reply, thats what they wanted I guess. And now they will have a blockade, lets see how they will survive without Russia in that region! Although, Im very dissapointed that Russia resumed gas pipeline to Georgia.....probably its paid in advance thats why.

 

Gotcha.
You are very objective and very honest man. One of the best in the world.

The only thing you probably lack is having heart and having compassion to the sufferings of so many innocent people.
And by standing behind the war criminal Saakashvili, you just show who you really are.

Go ahead continue with your facts denial and flat open lies. You like this US admin are quite good at it.

 

Who said I stand by anybody?

I don't have a dog in this fight, but that doesn't mean I can't question the loads of BS and propaganda being spread by both sides - including YOU. Mainly it appears that you are just parroting everything Russia says without question.

I have just asked some questions. Don't get all pissy because you don't have a answer that stands up to any scrutiny.

 

Georgia killed people in Ossetia. Russia went to defende them (and keep their strategic power over there). Georgia and US are playing dangerous games with Russia and Iran (Us, Uk + French Naval forces already in there to...?) and with China. Even Poland came to this issue (missil defence...lol).

Some analytics in Europe believe this is going to be the pretext to a new world order and maybe a ww3.

Don't miss the "attacks" on US with biochem (by Iran, they will say) and the attack on Iran by US, Uk and french forces. After that, god help us, because Russia and China, who have been provoced till exaustion, will defende the oil they need so much (caspian sea) and won't tolerate much more shit from us, uk, or nato.

Bad days ahead.

 

Okay, tell me this then. How can you judge a war conflict if ALL media is showing only GEORGIAN side ? They are all in Georgia, despite the fact that these fights were in south ossetia. Why no one goes to south ossetia - THE PLACE WHERE THIS WAR STARTED and where the most casualties are?

Surely its very convenient to sit in Tbilisi and talk BS.

The ONLY official from the west who visited South Ossetia was French foreign minister, big thank you to him!

 

I have not judged the conflict. I absolutely want more information, including directly from South Osettia. There is certainly some information coming from that area.

I appears to me that South Osettia was attacked by Georgia. That was clearly wrong.

It also seems to me that Russia used that as a pretext to disproportionately respond - not just in South Ossetia but in Georgia as well.

But don't try to spread the load of crap that Russia is just doing its good deed as a peacekeeper. Nobody with a head believes that is the whole story - even Russians.

 

Yesterday i saw some video about american citizens that were in Ossetia by the time of the attacks, and they keep saying in interview "how come america press is delivering the news the wrong way?".

Anyway, here's a good article about all this "strategic diversion".

Scary stuff.

 

Oh, well done, you got it at last

Russia did what it had to do, if someone attacks you, you will do the same and first defend yourself, then attack the aggressor and its military bases. Im glad they did that, Saakashvili had to pay for this mistake, although he didnt pay in full (comparing south ossetian damage vs georgian)

Its all planned. Today I saw the video from Fox channel and they were interviewing south ossetians, that live in US and were and south ossetia at this time. Well, guess what did they say? As soon as they said that its Georgian army attacked and not Russian, the Fox tv presenter quickly turned the advertisement break))))

Sad, but true.

 

here's the video:

http://ru.youtube.com/watch?v=H8XI2Chc6uQ

Brave girl.

 

I would like to see some documentation of those scores of people being killed. Russia is stating thouands killed and a few South Ossetians say the same. But the hospitals from what ive seen is not supporting those figures. South Ossetia is legally part of Georgia but then run their own de facto government if I am correct. Either way they are still part of Georgia and Russia had no business getting involved whatsoever. They have oil so they think they can do whatever they want and sadly thats true because most of europe will stand down since russia is their oil supplyer. But Georgia has tried to stop the fighting but Russia keeps on pushing into the country. Not only South Ossetia but Russia is also going into the other regions of Georgia which has nothing to do with any of this. Seems to me as if Russia is escalating things even more so.

 

Stop crying about Russia cornering the war criminal Saakashvili. US didn't even lose one person to Yugoslavia or Iraq, but bombed both of them and is still occupying Iraq.
The occupator of Iraq has no face to tell anybody what to do.

I want America to do the right things. This admin has failed 99% of the Americans.
America still supports some really bad guys and as it happens all the time the ordinary Americans pay for that.

 

I am not defending Iraq and it has nothing to do with this. But since you have no real legitimate arguments you keep bringing that up. Saakashili may be a war criminal but so are the Russian leaders for their actions in something that does not involve them.

 

Enough is enough.

 

I see a lot of "thoughts" here. I really think that Rusia started this war against Georgia. Of course they're saying that Georgia started, but wait, isn't obvious? RUSIA started the war because Georgia has alot of petroleum! Exactly the same reason for americans starting the war against IRAQ. Why nobody has think like me until now? Georgia is making about 2milions of $ every day with the petroleum..