Guide To Submit a SIte in ODP DMOZ ?

Discussion in 'ODP / DMOZ' started by aftab1003, Jul 16, 2008.

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  1. #1
    i have listed my free site in dmoz from 4years befor, i dont know what i do that time.
    but now
    all tries are in vain with paid TLD names.
    any perfect instruction to submit the site in dmoz?
     
    aftab1003, Jul 16, 2008 IP
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    MakeThatDollar Notable Member

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    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    Just submit and forget. That is the ONLY thing you need to know. Following the guidelines is shaky according to some editors, and according to some categories you chances of getting in are slightly worse then getting hit by lightning and winning the lottery on the same day.
     
    Qryztufre, Jul 17, 2008 IP
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    whats the point of your website then? (the one in your location) :D
     
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    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    The same as this board is for... help with understanding the complexities of DMOZ. ;)

    If you are lucky you can even get a status check on your submission.

    You can also get help picking the correct category, assistance in filling out your editor application & much much more... check it out.
     
    Qryztufre, Jul 31, 2008 IP
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    then its not just submit and forget...:p
     
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    sinol Banned

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    I am also facing prob. to submit in dmoz..
     
    sinol, Aug 1, 2008 IP
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    aftab1003 Banned

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    i think, the catagory that have less than 100 sites it to submit and get quick responce.
    but it should be your site's catagory.
     
    aftab1003, Aug 1, 2008 IP
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    I still can't get the submission approved. My website was submitted 2 months ago...
     
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    Oh, dear...whole 2 months? Cant believe that!

    BTW - there are more threads where you can post about, dont limit yourself with only two equal posts :D
     
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  11. Qryztufre

    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    Editors must enjoy the wait time of submitters with posts like yours. It's no wonder there is a wait time... from reading your post, I bet you don't even look at submissions under three years :rolleyes:

    So much for the directory and it's editors being HELPFUL, NICE, or any other term that would insinuate that editors are even remotely human or even care for the end user.

    2 months IS a looooooong time in the world of directories, that should be an indication there is a potential problem. That potential problem is confirmed when a post like yours is made publicly...

    Way to go editors!
     
    Qryztufre, Aug 4, 2008 IP
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    You mean there are still editors in DMOZ? I thought metas have removed everyone by know and they are preparing to delete everything in DMOZ and make a fresh start. :D
     
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    Luck is what i can say, Just submit and wait, hopefully who knows!
     
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    I also submitted my site going on 4 months now. I recently had to resubmit. What is annoying is that, as big as they are, you would think they would be professional enough to at least acknowledge by email that they are processing the submission. I can not even remember whether they do ask for an email address. What they are forgetting, is that what makes them what they are, is us users. And as such need to be treated with respect. If a site fails to meet the criteria then, how about letting me know about it!
     
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    Why? One of the biggest reason that site "suggestions" are not reviewed faster is a lack of manpower, and you want editors to hold your hand and make the process longer?

    The next reason is that we are not a listing service. You are "allowed" to "suggest" a site to us that you think we might be interested in, but we are under no obligation whatsoever to even look at it, let alone keeping you informed. Editors build categories of good sites for the information seeker, not for you.

    The only "users" we're interested in are the web surfers/information seekers, and perhaps by proxy (because they deliver the information) search engines. You have nothing whatsoever to do with building the Directory, other than wanting to be in it. We owe you nothing, and may not even want your site.

    http://www.dmoz.org/help/submit.html

    From our point of view, many times the word "user" is synonymous with "abuser". Yes, you're a user alright, you want to "use" the Directory for your own benefit. That's not the type of user we serve.
     
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    A basic automatically sent rejection letter could only help the directory and it's end users by propmting webmasters to reevaluate their sites and would in no way shape or form make the process longer... in fact, it would make it easier by getting many webmasters to FIX their sites before re-submitting in 3 months.

    Its done for editors after all...

    The suggestion process NEEDS to be removed if the ODP really holds that type of mindset.

    If that were true, then they would seek sites from every possible resource, INCLUDING the submission queue. As too many editors do not bother with the queue, then that sentence is not entirely truthful is it?


    Another HUGE misconception, unless of course you mean that the average webmaster does not build the pages that get listed and the only listings are from the webmasters that are also editors.

    The ODP would not and could not exist without the webmaster, as DMOZ is the middle man.

    I'll be sure to point that quote out to the rest of the end abusers that you have previously claimed to be what the directory is for.
     
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  18. crowbar

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    Well, we don't have such an automated response available, and we are not responsible for helping someone build their website. They either have what we want or they don't.

    And, for some sites, it would be like telling the robber how to be more successful next time, something we'd also not be interested in doing.

    No, it is not done for editors, stop lying through your teeth.

    Many of us totally agree with that, but our Social Contract with the web community dictates that suggestions be allowed, so they are. That doesn't mean we're obligated in any way to use them (though we occassionally do, at the editors discretion).

    Everything I say is truthful. Editors can choose to use or not use any resource, it's totally up to them. It's just as easy to find a site out on the net, whether it's been submitted or not, we don't need the suggestions, they are "allowed", but not needed.

    The Directory would not exist without sites to list, very true, and webmasters (professional & amatuer) build them, also true, but that doesn't mean we have any obligation to the builders.

    As long as sites are out on the public domain, we have every right to list them, with or without permission, it's a seperate issue. The telephone book lists all phone numbers as they see fit to. It doesn't ask for permission and no person with a phone number has anything to say about how the phone book is organized, or when they are listed, unless they are paying for a yellow page ad. (we don't have yellow page ads).

    If nobody had a phone, there would be no need for a phone book, if nobody had a site, there would be no need for the Directory. So what? Webmasters are not our partners, they do nothing to build the Directory, just the opposite, they do a lot of dishonest things that slow the building down and waste our time, and then the honest ones suffer the consequences.
     
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    DMOZ good, webmasters crap... got it
     
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    What lie?

    DMOZ didn't have Capcha a few months ago, now they do... and are you calling submitters and webmasters thieves? What are they stealing? Are you trying to say that the people that own DMOZ are robbers? Are you saying that your fellow editors that have pages are crooks?

    No, not all webmasters are bad, just like not all editors are bad, but why call me a liar when I've not even bent the truth? The technology to add such a feature is certainly there, and within the power of the ODP, they do it for would be editors after all. Why make it out like I am the bad guy, when all I am trying to do is help the directory be the best it can be, while you sit there and call me and other webmasters names. It should be clear to any one reading this who the thieves and robbers are...

    If the social contract you speak of is truly something that should be upheld, then it would be... Topix still has thousands of listings. So much for the social contract there. Human edited directory? Yeah, tell that to the staff that added the bot that listed Skrenta's sites... Sorry, such a defense does not work in this instance if it does not stand in every instance.

    Just as easy? Logging into the dashboard and going through a list is just as easy as searching through google, then logging into the dashboard to manually do it all? And you say you are speaking the truth? Sorry, but your truth is a bit off the mark...


    I never said you did, however, you said that webmasters are thieves and that the directory does not need them.... another untruth.

    Sooooooo.... what you are saying is that DMOZ is owned by crooks and thieves. It's no wonder soooooooo many people say there is corruption there.

    It's nice to know how you feel about all those Church sites listed, and all the local businesses listed in the regional categories. It's any wonder that the ODP lists any of the crooks that own sites... oh, that's right, they list crooks because webmasters are crooks and those that actually make it into the directory are partners in crime :rolleyes:

    Sorry, your words not mine... I'm personally of the mind that most webmasters are not crooks *shrug*

    EDIT: Webmasters DO do something that helps the directory though, and it's something you seem to be overlooking. They build the sites you put in the directory. Isn't that enough? I bet the folks at the phonebook company are nicer then the editors at DMOZ....so come on, show some respect.
     
    Qryztufre, Aug 15, 2008 IP
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