GOD can and will prove HE is GOD and Who HE IS!

It hasn't stopped you making enormous assumptions though.. Or is it only those who disagree with you who can't understand how god works?

 

The pot calling the kettle black, and i make my assumptions based on intrinsic feelings. You also make your assumptions based on your feelings and not on 100% pure fact. Lets agree on the fact that you cant prove 100% that god doesnt exist cause if you could the whole world would be atheist wouldnt it.

 

The same way you can't prove that he DOES exist, otherwise the whole world would believe...

 

Agreed. While we're at it, could we also agree that science has done a good job of demonstrating beyond a reasonable doubt that many allegorical biblical stories could not have possibly happened as recorded?

 

Such as? (Oh, and this would be were you would respond with both the evidence and what it proves)

 

I'de say a good start would be the elephant in the room.
http://pubs.usgs.gov/gip/geotime/age.html
http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/universe/uni_age.html

Or should I say.. The dinosaur in the room
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/17/new-dinosaur-fossils-disc_n_107609.html

 

First I didn't find an elephant, second all three of these stories are based on science using x and y factors to calculate where x and y are assumptions based on current findings leaving even the article writers to acknowledge "Presumably" that things are as old as they think they are.

Teaching kids that things are fact when the scientists who make the discoveries even know they are using figures they "presume" are accurate because of what they believe (have faith in) to begin with is lame.

What is sad is how many kids who are in their 20's and 30's now who actually believe (have faith) that those assumptions or presumptions are correct and are indisputable facts.

 

This is the problem here, as much as atheists wanna deny it they have a bias and this bias can be attributed to many factors regardless of whether they have the true facts or not, as long as their favorite pro atheist scientist backs there beliefs with supposedly indisputable facts. Like i said before i can prove it by doing a search on pro or even anti atheist sites. Any negative belief on atheism will have been drowned out by the many pro atheist sites that will pop up on google that basically give only one side of the equation. Even when i do a search on atheists are wrong i can only find pro atheist sites. This is called spamming the search engines .

I have yet to see one atheist to prove without a doubt that god doesnt exists and im putting this dare out to any atheist now.
Any takers
thats what i thought
god bless

 

That is you, like a typical theist, hunting for evidence after forming an infantile conclusion.

Your intellectual dishonesty aside, What do you think it means when you search for evidence to support your conclusion and still fail to find any?

Have you ever had anyone prove without a doubt that fairies don't exist?

 

I take it that means you cant prove it and your trying to justify the fact that you cant. Like i said your feelings are purely extrensic but if you can prove everything in the universe to me than you can prove your theory, but for you to believe without a shadow of a doubt that a force like god cant exists is also intellectual dishonesty. All im askinvg you to do is search for evidence to prove that my conclusion is wrong.
Can you?
a simple yes or no answer will do or will you also try to sugarcoat your next answer

Its like saying right now i can throw up 1 million leaves in the air and they will come down and forma house. Order from chaos again makes no sense at all to me and thats why i believe in a universe of unrandom order.

 

Me: Lets go to basics. Can god see everything?

Theist:Yes , so whats your point?

Me: God can see everything. Does god affect what it sees? in other words, can it peer into the universe without affecting it?

Theist: Hes all powerful and can do anything.

from about a page back. This violates the observer effect: (from wikipedia)

In other words, It's impossible to know both. To see without affecting is impossible, and that is what this theist has claimed.

Note: this holds true for all particles. Also, it is proven and provable. Since we are made of particles, it holds true for us as well.

 

Of course i can't prove that god doesn't exist; All you are doing is cowardly hiding behind the logical impossibility of being able to prove a negative. You can't prove fairies don't exist, It wouldn't make the belief that fairies do exist any more plausible.

Yeah it certainly does seem that your beliefs stem from you just not getting it, failing to understand simple concepts and utter ignorance. well done

 

God could always edit wikipedia and change things around.

 

haha. I have a decent knowledge of physics, wiki was just for phrasing. Assume it came from me.