Don't you think a bigger game is in plans behind Georgia's war?

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  1. atvking

    atvking Active Member

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    #21
    sounds like exactly the same situation as kosovo to me...why should the UN have anything against osetia declaring independence just like kosovo did? oh right because of the double standards...

    cant wait for bush to say "illegal state of ossetia" LOL...
     
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  2. Lemon116

    Lemon116 Active Member

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    #22
    First, I broke no law so stop fooling.

    Second, there was no pipeline is lebanon. see what I mean?

    Third, russia has killed far more innocent people than one can imagine (open your history books).

    Forth, Im part russian so take it as critics from inside.

    Waiting for your comment. :rolleyes:
     
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  3. N_F_S

    N_F_S Active Member

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    #23
    You forgot about the fifth, the most important one, that should have been really first in your list:

    russian people hate jew, you shoul'd ve started from that one.

    I am not russian (and in fact my dad can speak jewish and have friends), I'm just saying this based on my own experience and all "funny" stories they make up about you. Is that right?

    So, your reaction cannot be adequate.
     
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  4. Lemon116

    Lemon116 Active Member

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    #24
    Russia is involved in every single conflict in the middle east selling weapons to Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Iraq, Iran and list continues....

    See "Cold War", russia was involved in many conflicts selling weapons and cousing death.

    And you say WE sell weapons? lmao :eek:
     
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  5. Lemon116

    Lemon116 Active Member

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    #25
    And how the hell is it related to anything?

    Proving russia is racist? I knew that. thanks for reminding. now the whole forum knows it as well.

    Let me help you: Russia Is Racist
    I can use font 7, just ask...
     
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  6. N_F_S

    N_F_S Active Member

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    #26
    How? I just helped you to make your list complete, mate :) You were saying that you are critisizing Russia "from inside", no wonder.

    You can use any font and color, if you will feel better after that.

    Russia is racist?:D Is that big news? Did you ever wonder why there are not much black people in Russia? Think about it.
     
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  7. Lemon116

    Lemon116 Active Member

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    #27
    Let me add something to #6, #7 and #8

    Russians hate Poles

    Russians hate Ukranians

    Russians hate Americans

    Do you have a 9?
     
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  8. lightless

    lightless Notable Member

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    #28
    WRONG

    How could that have been possible if russians hated poles :confused:
     
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  9. N_F_S

    N_F_S Active Member

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    #29
    correction: West-Ukrainians, East ones are on our side.

    9 ? Sure, Russia has fought the most number of wars, including ww2 and have the right to hate anyone just for the sake of history and the countries who betrayed her. Anyone can hate anyone, thats the right of human being as long as there are no wars in:

    Poland

    Ukraine

    USA
     
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  10. Lemon116

    Lemon116 Active Member

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    #30
    Thats why I respect Russia:
    For winning important fights and some brilliant people (scientists, writers, etc.)

    Russia selling weapons to Siria and Iran? hell no.
    ...and its double standards towards Israel.

    Hmm... Ill get back to you on this later... :p
     
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  11. N_F_S

    N_F_S Active Member

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    #31

    US sells weapons to you and a hell lot more countries, and in fact is the leader at it, Russia being 2nd. The world should not be mono polarized. Its a business for these two mighty powers + both pursuing their interests.
     
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  12. Lemon116

    Lemon116 Active Member

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    #32
    So youre saying I should be quit while Russia is doing business selling weapons to Iran?

    The Iranians dont need weapons, they need a new & better goverment and Im sure Russia CANT help them with that.
     
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  13. N_F_S

    N_F_S Active Member

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    #33
    Really?) So if I say the Israeli need a new & better goverment, and US cannot help them with that. Who are you to deside what other nation needs or not ? God ?

    No, Im not saying you should be quit while Russia is doing business selling weapons to Iran, you can fight with them in equal power if you are brave and have issues with them. You ve got a MUCH better support from US and you are still crying? Where is fair play ?

    Anyways, lets not talk about Iran/Israel here, this is a different thread.
     
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  14. Lemon116

    Lemon116 Active Member

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    #34
    No, but its my opinion.
    And youre right Israel and the US need a new goverment as well, Im not saying youre God, do I? ;)
     
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  15. N_F_S

    N_F_S Active Member

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    #35
    I didnt say that I think that US and Israel needs a new government, I just made the same example :) You can have a government you like, as long as you like it.
     
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  16. ST12

    ST12 Active Member

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    #36
    If lemon116 is partially Russian and at the same time hates Russians and is obviosly dishonest on many big issues. What does that tell you about him?

    I don't believe Russians hate Pols, Ukrainians, Americans or Israeilis. It simply is not true.
     
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  17. LogicFlux

    LogicFlux Peon

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    #37
    Russia uses their pipelines as a way to influence surrounding states by threatening to cut the flow of oil to those states. Pipelines like the one that goes through Georgia is an alternative to Russian energy and that weakens Russian influence in the region as long as Russia doesn't control it.
     
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  18. ST12

    ST12 Active Member

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    #38
    So what?
    US does not put embargo on countries it does not like, ha?
    Or it is US patent that she can do so only.

    2000 Russians were masacred and those responsible must be brought to court.

    US should stop using doble standards or she risks losing more and more influence in the world. A lot of it has been lost already.
    As a matter of fact the US respect around the globe is almost bankrupt.

    I see tourists in Los Angeles from all over the world and many from Canada and EU say US screwed up the world and that US has lost their respect.
     
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  19. LogicFlux

    LogicFlux Peon

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    #39
    Ask the millions of Africans who will survive AIDS because of the US's efforts if we've screwed up the world.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President's_Emergency_Plan_for_AIDS_Relief

    It's really not possible to have a thread about anything without people getting all anti-US and blaming everything on us, is it?
     
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  20. ST12

    ST12 Active Member

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    #40


    If you kill one without a reason and save the live of another one are you really a good person?

    IMO you shouldn't kill innocent in the first place and you should help others if you can.
    Then only can you claim you are good.
     
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