Iran Or Isreal? Who Will Be The Victory?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by RoyalMember, Aug 2, 2008.

  1. pizzaman

    pizzaman Active Member

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    #121
    nope i want to know. i know what they have said. i want to know what they have done? iran israel and US have a very old and complicated history . i do not know a lot about this website . i remember a lot of these stuff.
    start here
    http://historycommons.com/timeline.jsp?timeline=irancontraaffair


     
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  2. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #122
    Iran sponsors much of the terrorism committed against Israel, both with money and arms. That is in addition to their openly stated desire to see Israel gone.

    But you already knew that.

    Let's hope the Iranian people have a bigger say in how that country is run. I would expect that it would be a much better place for the Iranians as well as the rest of the world.
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    #123
    they provide bigger stones to gaza
    as far as what they have said it is what you were defending in the other thread.
    so what is left is hizbolah. these are their co religions so they help them.
    i have to do some research to show that an opportunity to get this stopped with a deal with iran was opposed by israel.
    iranian people should be supported if they move toward a more democratic govt. It is up to them. but i think evolution is better for them.
     
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    vanquishdesign Peon

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    #124
    WARS are about 2 things.

    Who gets DEAD and WHO gets RICH.
     
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  5. browntwn

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    #125
    If you want to play those games you can play by yourself.
     
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    RoyalMember Banned

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    #126
    :D



    You have to pay $10, browntwn :D You Replied to pizzaman. PM SENT.
     
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  7. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #127
    Thanks for reminding me. I replied to your PM asking for your paypal email.

    edit: payment sent

    browntwn
     
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  8. RoyalMember

    RoyalMember Banned

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    thanks payment received :)
     
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  9. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #129
    Somehow I don't think it was worth $10 just to reply to Pizzaman.

    Anyway, deal is over - but I will do it again if I find my P & R posting becomes pointless and excessive again - which undoubtedly it will.

    Peace to all and have a good night.

    p.s. RoyalMember was very kind and offered me a domain in exchange. Since I have too many unused domains already I insisted he take it back or give it to someone else. But his thoughtfulness was very nice and appreciated.
     
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  10. Clifford

    Clifford Peon

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    #130
    If fighting wars won us anything like we're promised over and over, we'd be back in the garden of eden by now.

    No one wins, a bunch of peoples guts get splattered and thats it. You talk like they're competing for a gold medal over who can blow up the most little children.
     
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  11. pizzaman

    pizzaman Active Member

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    #131
    what? i know stones are dangerous
    really to claim some one is arming hamas is funny.
    also i have seen people complain why rich muslems aren't helping.
    now you say if they help they can be attacked:confused:
     
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    !Unreal Well-Known Member

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    #132
    Do both countrys have nuclear power? If so there is just going to be two big creators the size of Iran and Israle in the middle east somewhere. There will be no winners.
     
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  13. pizzaman

    pizzaman Active Member

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    #133
    http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1218104249803&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull
    and you were wrong all along.:D
    here is the pdf of isis report
    http://www.isis-online.org/publications/iran/Centrifuge_Manufacturing_7August2008.pdf
     
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  14. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #134
    Helping the Palestinian people is not the same as supporting terrorist seeking to kill Israelis. Surely the Palestinians know the difference. Unfortunately, the Arab would likes to keep the Palestinians as pawns in their proxy war with Israel. The Palestinian nation could be great if only the Arab nations loved their own brothers as much as they hate the Israelis. People who conflate the two issues are displaying their lack of intellectual integrity.

    Israel has successfully ended the Iraqi nuclear threat and the Syrian nuclear threat. Anyone who thinks they cannot do the same with Iran is ignoring history in favor of fairy tales. Purposeful ignorance or wishful thinking serves nobody.

    Got to run, goto go eat another slice.
     
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    #135
    here you read the pdf see who is engaged in wishful thinking.
     
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    #136
    Someone thinks Israel is sharing their intelligence with David Albright. I wonder if the Israeli spies in Iran's nuclear program think it is as funny as I do?

    I don't know if or where Israel has spies, but I do know that David Albright does not know either. Making his assessment about Israel's chances of success nothing more that a guess. He does noticeable contradict much of what some posters here say about the Iranian program by speaking about all the materials they have illicitly obtained over the last few years. As usual, some posters simply ignore the parts that make much of their history of posts here on DP total lies.

    Par for the course.
     
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  17. pizzaman

    pizzaman Active Member

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    #137
    it even talks about replacement time. we know that they have enrichment program. i did not read the whole thing but i searched for the word weapon and i did not see where it say that iran has a weapon program. i will read it when i am in the mood.
     
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  18. SharePro

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    #138
    This thread has totally gotten off topic.

    @ Pizzaman - Jewish dietary laws are not for Gentiles. Judiasm is 100% not a missioniaric religion. No Jewish person will every ask you to be Jewish nor condemn you for whatever it is you decide to eat. I don't know any of you people on this forum, but I can promise you all that never in any of your lives has any Jew asked you to be Jewish. Judiasm is a birthright more than it is a religion. Judiasm doesn't allow in outsiders as easy as other relgions. That is one reason that most of the world doesnt like us.

    As for America opening up an affairs office (contingent upon Iran following UN charter) is not inconsistent with what I am writing. America is using 100% of its diplomatic resources so that when it finally does bomb Iran, there wont be any room to say that America didn't try.

    But America will NOT open any diplomatic mission in Iran so long as Iran doesnt follow its obligations to UN resolutions. America has not had any diplomatic ties with Iran since the fall of the Shah. At the time, the current Iranian government took over the American embassy holding Americans hostage. Since then, Iran has been found responsible (by different international courts) for being involved with terrorism against American and Israeli diplomatic targets in South America.

    Dont kid yourself into thinking that America would spend trillions on moving its armed forces into position without Iran budging first.

    Iran already has missles that can reach Europe. France is also ready to attack Iran. Either Iran cooperates (which it wont) or they will be attacked (most likely they will be attacked).

    This is not an "Israeli Problem" or "American Problem" per say. It's a world problem. Developing long range missles that can almost reach America is not a f'n joke. Iran doesnt require the long range missles they have unless their target is EUROPE. That is why France is ready to fire with Israel or America.

    Seriously, would you sleep well at night knowing that Iran has nuclear capacity?
     
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  19. browntwn

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    #139
    Some people only support Iran when discussing the US or Israel. When precious Lebanon is the topic they talk about Iran's sponsorship of terrorism and negative influence in other nations. There is a word for people like that.
     
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  20. pizzaman

    pizzaman Active Member

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    #140
    i was talking about the taste of kosher cheese and lack of peperoni. I have high regard for what i personally know of jewish people and the aggressiveness of the israelis and israeli supporters in the forum has been very shocking to me.
    There seems to be a turn in US strategy in regard to Iran. Many people in our armed forces have already spoken against this idea of war with iran. There is also the uselessness of such attack as it is described on this report. I know that there are some israeli politicians that talk about such option and want the US to attack iran but in reality there is no such option. Sooner you and people with your mindset realize this the better for everyone involved.
    A friendly iran can be a very valuable asset for US and iran will get a lot of advantages also. It is not hard to make a deal with iran.

    not wanting to get involved in a useless war with no hope of archiving ones goal is not support of iran. why don't we put rumsfeld in charge so we guarantee another disaster. we have a lot of nasty friends we can have another one. it is better than having a nasty enemy.
    You think supporting israel means helping them do whatsoever they want. I don't give that to my kids.[if i had one]
     
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