Platinum proxy ebook on DP -earn 1000+$ a month looks like clear SCAM

Discussion in 'General Marketing' started by modpeng, Aug 9, 2008.

  1. #1
    Yo guys.
    Lets see your input on this.

    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=809771
    This is one of thread the guy is selling his $22 ebook from which you can easily make 1000$+ a month, yeah you read that well.

    Now the base on which he has sold probably over 100 ebooks (2000$ anyone?) are his earning screenshots. He has 10s of them on his blog and here on DP as well. Just check his blog and his threads on DP.
    Getting to the point check this earning screenshot:
    http://platinumproxyguide.com/more/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/3.jpg
    As you can see on September 2007 he supposedly earnt almost 1000$.

    But let's double check his stats:
    1000000 page views w/ Adversal now that easily means 2000000 real views at least bc popups are blocked by most users.
    So 2000000/7 (an average proxy visitor visits 7 pages) =286000
    Which means the supposedly got 286000/30=9500 visitors a day.

    Now let's check his Alexa ranking now and back in time for this most successfull proxy: http://www.inetfreedom.info
    SURPRISE:
    http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details/inetfreedom.info

    Select max on the graph and you will see this site wasn't even close to even a 100000 ranking in the past 9 months!
    In fact its current Alexa ranking is a mere: 1000000


    I'm looking forward for your opinion on this guys!
     
    modpeng, Aug 9, 2008 IP
  2. choice

    choice Prominent Member

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    So he fakes his stats nothing new

    people do all sorts to boost sales
     
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  3. Game Producer

    Game Producer Well-Known Member

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    Well, you just showed something that people ought to check out when dealing with these sort of folk... check out the facts :)
     
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  4. xternall

    xternall Active Member

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    Scam or not, it was a great read :)
     
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  5. Pal

    Pal Active Member

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    Accusing people became that simple? I got started with his e-book and I earned about $500 in second month that I got involved in proxy industry, right before this summer comes. His guide was great and helped me a lot. of course I could learn the thing in the e-book by myself but it takes time which I hadn't. If you try you get those numbers. Calling an e-book which have a lot of positive feedback "SCAM"... what do you think yourself? ;)
     
    Pal, Aug 9, 2008 IP
  6. loopline

    loopline Well-Known Member

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    LOL, if your going to accuse someone you should first get your facts straight. You say I said "easily", I never said so. Infact I said the opposite many times over. It clearly takes a lot of work to earn good money, but it can be done.

    Yes, I have sold over 100 copies of the book, for a nice profit of over $2000, thanks for pointing that out. :) I am sitting at paradise bakery right this minute on my laptop typing this response, having just had breakfast with the money from one of the ebook sales. Ham and cheese omelet with toast and salsa, quite tasty. (thanks to whoever bought that ebook. ) :D

    Oh, and since all screen shots are fake, you might as well give up on making money online. Here look at shoemoneys shot, is it fake?

    http://www.shoemoney.com/gallery/v/misc/adsensecheck.jpg.html

    photoshoped I suppose you might say....

    I have found great encouragement from shoemoney and others who have shared proof of the money that they have made online. They help me to keep motivated. Thanks Shoemoney and everyone else.


    If you haven't checked out Adversal then I would recommend that you do. They have awesome popup blocker avoidance. They get around almost ever popup blocker on the market, I have tested them myself. If you like feel free to visit the proxy that you mentioned here and test it. Its great for profit. And your stats are off, Adversal only pops on average one time out of every 3-5 page views, saves on user annoyance.

    As for UV, I was averaging 12,000 to 15,000 per day, per Google Analytics. Unless you think Google Analytics is perhaps faking their screen shots too?


    Alexa = old, dead, not what it used to be, not an accurate measurement tool (I mean how many teenagers went through the trouble of installing the alexa tool bar on their browser before trying to unblock myspace?), minipulateable etc...

    Alexa does NOT = any basis upon which I get paid.



    Well a good place to start to see some opinions is:

    V1 of my proxy ebook:
    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?p=5392288#post5392288
    9 pages of opinons and positive reviews. Also screen shots from people that bought my book and made money. Probably all fake screen shots though...


    V2 of my proxy ebook:
    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=809771
    5 pages of reviews and opinions. Maybe half the people here on DP are all fake and like to help me out? Even a nice prop from Veturfox who was one of my original proxy inspirations. I think he said something like "implementing a variety of powerful techniques and different monetization sources."

    Also another great place to check out is my 48 positive iTrader (most of which is from selling my ebook):
    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/itrader.php?u=69265



    Take it for what its worth, but I would like to say thank you to modpeng for starting this thread. Anytime I have ever had contention about my ebook here on DP, I always wind up selling more copies of it in the end. Just marketing awareness. So thanks modpeng for the extra sales that you are driving. Looks like I will be visiting Paradise Bakery a bit more often with the extra sales. BTW, if you live in the USA and can visit one, they have stellar cookies. Oh.. back on topic.. :D
     
    loopline, Aug 9, 2008 IP
  7. loopline

    loopline Well-Known Member

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  8. modpeng

    modpeng Peon

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    Yeah, very cool you just bumped your post for which you qualify for a one week ban from DP. Check rules, I don't like them either...

    Getting back to business you can recheck the thread title: "looks like clear SCAM" So as with all things in life it may not be what appears to be...

    I'm actually really happy that the promoter, loopline, got to this thread because he can easily prove himself once and for all.
    He has Google Analytics for his site and as we know Google Analytics stats can be shared publicly. So he only needs to put up a link to his Google Analytics to prove me wrong and also Alexa:

    So, Mr loopline I'm waiting for the link and as soon as you provide it, you'll enjoy the increased sales.
     
    modpeng, Aug 9, 2008 IP
  9. Lethal7

    Lethal7 Active Member

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    alexa is nothing, if they dont have the bar installed, alexa wont record a visit.
     
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  10. loopline

    loopline Well-Known Member

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    I did not bump my thread, or this one. The post was over a half an hour apart and I was adding to the conversation.

    Quite frankly I think it funny that you seem to feel that the world bows to you and you give permission on who is accurate and who is not. As you said:
    "So, Mr loopline I'm waiting for the link and as soon as you provide it, you'll enjoy the increased sales."

    You will give me permission to enjoy increased sales and not be an alleged scammer if I comply to your terms and provide a link?

    So dozens of screen shots over multiple months, Dozens of positive iTraders, dozens of testimonials from dp members spread over dozens of pages in my threads isn't good enough. One link to Google analytics and you will "give permission" for me to not be a scammer?

    ROFL!

    By all means, keep posting to this thread. I am already enjoying the sales, and without your permission even! hehe. Got 2 sales today and a PM about a third. All told I have pages of screens and reviews to back me, you have your opinion.

    Thank you. Case in point.
     
    loopline, Aug 9, 2008 IP
  11. modpeng

    modpeng Peon

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    Sure, sure, since when selling a product washes you of being dishonest?

    Hey guy, I'm actually after your girlfriend, you know. Her phone nr is on your Google Analytics page. You should really hide it!
    It's a matter of life and death.

    Exactly, you may believe you're the center of the Universe, but the fact is you're not. "Dozens of screen shots over multiple months" can be faked in 10 mins in photoshop. Are you born today?
    And yes, who said scammers are dumb, idiot ppl, who can never get an iTrader or Testimonial especially over DP, it's quite the opposite!
    I'm witnessing daily to threads spanned over 10s of pages of promises that you will get 100000s of $ (just 10000$ in your case, whoa!) in a year, yes, with hard work, with very hard work!
    Sitting in face of the computer and spamming to death dead Google and Yahoo Groups, yeah very hard work indeed!

    And that is with no revenue proof, now imagine a smarty who learned photoshop and can fake a dozen of revenue screenshots...
    Whoa... the goldmine got to planet Eearth.


    Exactly, you have only screenshots to back you, which can be made in 10 mins in Photoshop. And about reviews, yes, who sad scammers are untalented writers or people can't be manipulated when they see a goldmine opening, etc.

    All in all it's clear that you're Google Analitycs account can't back you, there's no reason on Earth why you couldn't make it public otherwise.
    Yeah I know, DP memebers will rob you of your hard earned chicks, if you would do it.

    So here's another smarty who promosises you'll earn 1000$ a month backed by only a dozen of screenshots. That is DP in action...
     
    modpeng, Aug 9, 2008 IP
  12. xternall

    xternall Active Member

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    kids that worry and complain about somebody's elses business, that's DP in action...

    all I want to say is that it's possible, not easily, but with efford, to make $1000/month with proxies.
    Im close to it, and know a lot of people who are beyond that figure...
     
    xternall, Aug 10, 2008 IP