Found a new ClickBank Thief - Want to help take him down?

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  2. Ripped

    Ripped Well-Known Member

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    I don't know about the other products, but the hho gas power car page is legit. He's either hosting the same sales page or He just redirects to the run your car on water page and is cloaking the link.

     
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    i think you'll find some accomodating members on this forum, but you will need to offer some suggestions as to how we can back you up.
     
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    Waste the time trying to take him down , its just as easy for him to make another page and put it back up in a matter of days. I think guys like him are just the hard realities of internet marketing , I believe in Karma so he'll get his own and cheats dont prosper
     
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    There are several free ebooks that he's offering, I downloaded few of them, and one of them said 'No Resell Rights for this book, it cannot be resold nor given away', So he's definitely doing something wrong
     
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    No - that on isn't legit. If you go to the page, you'll notice that the buy links go to: http://2.jpegphp_centemax.pay.clickbank.net/ - Notice the "jpegphp_" before the centemax part. He has set up a merchant account with that nickname - and is sending all payments to that account.

    I've already contacted CB about it, and hope that they contact me soon.

    It may be easy for this guy to set up more web pages, but it's much harder to provide multiple names to Clickbank for accounts. I'm going to make it hard for this guy to make money.
     
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    Oh yeah, you're right I totally missed that, I just took a quick glance and thought it was centemax. I guess he did that will all products, This website needs to brought down.
     
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    DCMA him :) His host will suspend his site.
     
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    So far, I've found that his site is being hosted using 2 seperate ip addresses. Here they are:
    NS.MY-EHOST.COM 198.31.50.20
    NS2.MY-EHOST.COM 65.98.25.54

    The first one belongs to http://www.volico.com/

    and the second one belongs to www.PWEBTECH.COM

    So if you have a product on this page - make sure to go to these websites and make a complaint.
     
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    Also Clickbank support needs to be contacted in order to remove his products
     
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    Well it looks like he took down my product - but is still stealing other people's products.
     
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    I don't understand, how could Clickbank approve his products.
    I mean, He copied the whole Centemax Product, and registered it under his name. Same goes with the other products.
    Centemax is one of the most popular Clickbank Products, and I don't see how the Clickbank employees could've missed it. If it was a product that he copied that is not very known and popular, I understand how they would've not have noticed it, but he registered the same centemax product under somename_centemax and centemax is one of the most popular CB products
     
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    He still acts as an affiliate, but he links directly to the payment page.

    His affiliate ID is: jpegphp

    Basically, what he did is simply copied centemax's sales page and replaced the order now links with his affiliate link straight to the payment page.

    Certainly, he can't do that.
     
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    Thanks bl4ckmaN. I was trying to sign in yesterday to say that exact thing.

    He is only making money as an affiliate. Whether it's right or not anyone can do this.

    All you have to do is: ProductNumber.YOURAFFID_CBPUBID.pay.clickbank.net

    Let's say someone's sales copy sucks but the product is actually pretty good you can make your own sales copy and put this direct order link with your affiliate ID. This way you still get credit for the sale.

    Nobody missed it at Clickbank.

    If he was really sneaky and was trying to sell someone else's product without Clickbank knowing he could have done it with CB multi item manager. Ewen Chia, John Chen, and a a lot of other IM'ers use this (for good purposes of course!).
     
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    Actually - I didn't know that it was possible to do that the way he was doing it. - If so, then I apologize for the "thief" comment above.
     
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    This guy is definitely doing something fishy!
    And his page needs to be brought down, he's giving away ebooks that are for sale elsewhere.
    I mean, I don't understand, If he copied the centemax sales page, and put his own payment link number.affid_centemax.pay.clickbank.net, why wouldn't he just redirect to the centemax page with his own affiliate link? It would be 10 times simpler and easier, he wouldn't have to host or copy the sales page.

    What's the advantage of copying the sales page and putting a paylink like:
    number.affid_centemax.pay.clickbank.net
    OVER just redirecting to the sales page(which is identical as his page)
    yourID.centemax.hop.clickbank.net

    Do you get credited differently or something? Is he getting more revenue from number.affid_centemax.pay.clickbank.net than just a normal redirect with his affiliate link ? Because when I checked the payment page at number.affid_centemax.pay.clickbank.net, My affiliate Id listed(I'm promoting centemax and have a cookie on my browser).

    so If my affiliate ID is there, that means I'm 75% of the sale, and if what some of you stated was true, the other 25% go to centemax , meaning he doesn't get anything, which can't be true.

    Can anyone please clear these issues up.

    I must note once more that he copied the centemax page, and is having an identical page, meaning he didn't improve it or make a better page.
    Only thing that makes sense is if he was getting full commision for users that don't have a cookie.
     
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    There was a site in the past that used a similar method where they made a different sales letter and placed their affiliate link on it... that was because the original sale letter of the publisher was not good looking. At that time, i emailed clickbank and they told me it was ok... but i dunno why he does so, specially that he copied the same exact sales letter. I guess emailing centemax about it is a good thing to do.
     
    el_halabi22, Aug 10, 2008 IP