You Get What You PAY For!

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by razsports, Aug 7, 2008.

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    My guess is you have all heard the above saying. My question is, how come most on DP don't follow that rule? It seems as if many on here do not take their business to serious.

    Example: Content is key when building a website. Your content should be built for the human eye. Remember those days of writing a school paper?

    Anyway, I see people are willing to pay little in amount of $$$ for content and/or link building. My theory is, why should I help you make $$$ and I receive nothing? In other words, you hire me to promote your site for $5.00. Mean while your site takes off and makes $3500 a month. I did all the work and get $5.00? Like that is fair.

    Remember, "Time is $$$."


    Yesterday, I saw a few postings right here on DP. The grammar and/or spelling was terrible. Yet, these people are still being hired to complete jobs.

    Again, "You get what you pay for."
     
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  2. linkfinder

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    But if want to make money you have to give the services.Other wise you mske your own site.
     
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  3. razsports

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    "But if want to make money you have to give the services.Other wise you mske your own site."

    linkfinder,

    Do you not understand my posting?
     
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  4. ЄxDeus™

    ЄxDeus™ Well-Known Member

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    Well members buy because its cheap =) in my service i always tell members what you get and show proof =) you will notice on my traffic i guarantee 1000-2000 UV while on the other services i wont guarantee anything. you pay for a Service then the service gets done why would it matter if you did all the work and the person got a good investment back? the whole point of a service is so the users site gets a better return. i would love one of my clients to make 3000$ from a 25$ service. All the best to members that make it big :)

    the reason you sell a service and members buy is because they get a return in the long run and you get a return in the short run.
     
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  5. razsports

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    ЄxDeus,

    First off, anyone who offers a service for cheap- is not taking their work seriously.

    Second, as I said earlier, "You get what you pay for."

    No offense to you, but I can see why you offer services next to nothing. Your grammar and spelling has been terrible. Example, i should be capitalized .
     
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    ЄxDeus™ Well-Known Member

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    grammar has nothing to with my service... and yes my grammar sucks that's why i hire content writers for my sites. And i would like you to know i take my work very seriously and i can still offer cheap services. just because its cheap dont mean its not serious. i think the problem here is you dont make any money because other members are cheaper then you, so you made a thread. What you fail to understand is some members work for cheap because a $ means alot to them.
     
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  7. razsports

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    ЄxDeus,

    Excellent grammar and/or spelling shows that your services are professionally done. So, yes grammar means something.

    As for me not making $$$? I have repeating clients. I look for those who are willing to pay good $$$$.
     
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    ЄxDeus™ Well-Known Member

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    All professional means is you make money from something... so if i charged 1 cent per 200 words and my living cost was 3 cents a day and i wrote 1000 words i would be 2 cents in profit and could call my self a professional. i dont think a service needs to look professional as long as the customer service is good and you treat your customers with respect and value there service not there money. whats it matter if you use well grammar if its not content based materiel your selling?
     
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    I agree, I always tell people this, you get what you pay for, if you're going for a cheaper version of the product things are going to go wrong and they have done with me.
     
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    People who undercut themselves are lowering the standards of the online market.
    If you're going to pay me 5$ to write an article, you're going to get a 5$ article.

    If you're going to pay me 50$ to make a template, it's going to be ugly.
    Now, if you pay me what I beleive I should be paid, you'll get top quality work.



    People here are mostly trying to make a quick buck from my observations,
    And most live under the idea of 'sell more, means more money. ' rather then selling quality projects.
     
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    Personally, I have been offering a very cheap ad design service to build a portfolio and testimonials. Plus I get paid to do it.
    This is a good place to get a reading on what people are willing to pay for.
    Plus it gives you a chance to build your professionalism.
     
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  12. razsports

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    Hi unr,

    Very nicely put :) Now you are a person who knows business :)
     
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    ЄxDeus™ Well-Known Member

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    so this is how you run your business:

    if the service is cheap then just take the customers money and give them a crap service, after all there money wont buy me much and i dont care about there site long as my grammar is right and i look professional i dont care. I would hate my customers to make it big just because i got a crap return i mean how fairs that.

    i guess i look at business different to you guys oh well.
     
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    Wow, I am shocked that someone would give crap because they think they are worth more.
    What happened to standards. If you're not getting enough for the work, don't do it.
    Word of mouth goes along way in life. I do my best to give quality work no matter how much or little I get. Why?
    Because I made a commitment and always do my best at that time.
    One suggestion I have is try scaling your work, at least you both would agree to the amount of work to be done and the price.
    A cheap website doesn't have to be ugly for a small cost, maybe it is just scaled down and simpler yet attractive and does the job.
    You will gain more long term customers
     
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  15. unr.

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    I beleive my work is worth said amount of money.
    You want the job done for cheaper.

    I'll give it to you cheap,
    But it won't be my best effort.

    Why should I give you top quality if you're not willing to pay top dollar right?


    Then again, there are people who are building their portfolios, where they work cheap, which I have done too.
    But you should only really need to do that for 2 or 3 clients, then that should be enough in your portfolio.


    By one or two people cutting the prices of xhtml/css coding down to 20$ a page,
    someone who does regularly 50$ a page will also have to cut themselves down.

    There's alot of money in the online business, and everyone seems to be cutting eachother short.


    It's not pretty to watch BST area's die off. :(
     
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    ЄxDeus™ Well-Known Member

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    answer: because they look at your portfolio see that the webpages are good and pay. What your doing is using your portfolio to scam others into thinking that's your level of work. Do you have a big sign over them that says this is my low budget work if you dont pay top doller i wont have your site looking anything like this in fact i will make your site look how i think your money pays for it to look.

    thats how its meant to work....

    if you have the right audience. i know web designers that charge 2500$ for a basic website how ever they dont sell them on dp they find there own client base
     
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    Here is where I can agree with unr.
    I have been cutting my prices for to long now.
    My portfolio has grown and have many happy customers.
    Now, it is time for me to get back what I have almost been giving away.
    The trick is to find where you fit in with the quality you provide.
    Frankly, there are people who are barely adequate and charge accordingly or to much.

    The ones that can find where there product fits in will do well if marketed correctly.
     
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    There're gold words, mate.
     
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  19. unr.

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    Sorry, but this makes me laugh.
    If I tell someone, I'm starting your design at 250$. After they've looked at my portfolio, how is that scamming them with my portfolio?

    If they ask for something cheaper, I'll tell them, ok, but it won't be as good.

    Why should I broadcast my low-budget work right? My portfolio showcases my best work, there's lots of things I have done that I wouldn't dare put near that portfolio.


    In fact, yes that's how it works.
    If you don't want to pay for what I'm worth, why should I give you what I'm worth?
    Your method of thinking " if you dont pay top doller i wont have your site looking anything like this in fact i will make your site look how i think your money pays for it to look. " makes me laugh.
    The way you're talking, your saying if a guy comes up to me, and says "Can you build me an entire automated website?" And I say "Yes, my starting price would be 400$".
    From what I gathered, you think that if he replies with "That's too much, how about 50$?" I should say yes, and give him the same quality of work?

    No, if he wants to undercut my prices, I'll undercut his quality.
    Eye for an eye! Garr!
     
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  20. unr.

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    I have people that do the same,
    In fact I'm doing a two webdesign project for 6grand right now.

    However, Just becuase i'm 'at dp' doesn't mean I should be charging any less.


    I'm worth a certain value, no more, no less.
    If they want less, they get less.


    edit -- Crap, thought dp had automerge.
     
    unr., Aug 7, 2008 IP