What this guy could be doing?!

Discussion in 'Link Development' started by giancarlo, Aug 5, 2008.

  1. #1
    I mean he's the No. 1 for my keyword, his position is very strong (he only has an affiliate promoting website, and neighter the original website, which only comes second, nor the Google Dance could shake him down), but - and now comes the interesting part - he has no incoming links (as displayed on Yahoo Site Explorer, not Google Links).

    So do you have any idea how come a page like that is the No. 1?
     
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  2. MakeThatDollar

    MakeThatDollar Notable Member

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    #2
    What's the keyword?
     
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  3. uzzi

    uzzi Active Member

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    #3
    yes.what's the keyword?
     
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  4. zingo

    zingo Peon

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    #4
    Page like what ?
     
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  5. fr3akeeee

    fr3akeeee Peon

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    #5
    Interesting, but tell us the keyword man... this should be a weird case
     
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  6. giancarlo

    giancarlo Active Member

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    Sorry, I can't give you the keyword, but it's adult business, and it has 1.440.000 competitve pages indexed for.
     
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  7. fr@nc!z

    fr@nc!z Active Member

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    #7
    No incoming links but number 1 in your target KW? What KW are you targeting and what is your website? Let us check.
     
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  8. lisa757

    lisa757 Peon

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    #8
    maybe the KW not competitive...try check the KW using quotes " "...
     
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    tendulkar2 Banned

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    #9
    It's very hard to tell how anyone's getting a No1 position by knowing the keyword.. and you want to know that without saying the keyword :(
     
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  10. vjlenin

    vjlenin Well-Known Member

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    #10
    whcih site and which keyword
     
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  11. seconnection

    seconnection Peon

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    spill your guts man!!
     
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  12. ~kev~

    ~kev~ Well-Known Member

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    #12
    There is more to it then just a "keyword". You are looking at the fine line details, not the big picture.

    What did this other guy use to build his website with? Is it better optimized for search engines then your site? Is the word in the domain name, site description or site title?

    Has this other person posted a lot of articles with the keyword in it, and are the articles optimized for search engines?

    Did the other guy use a high quality commercial CMS, and you are trying to use some cheap or free cms that is not search engine optimized?

    As an example, one of my sites is beating out larger sites because my site description and meta description have been optimized for certain keywords.

    Instead of asking how this guy got the ranking he did, ask how you can beat his rank. :) But you have to look at the BIG picture and you are focused on a single "keyword". Broaden your scope and your view point. Maybe a question you should ask is "how can I optimize my site to get better ranking?"
     
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  13. SuPrAiCeR69

    SuPrAiCeR69 Peon

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    #13
    Why start a thread asking "what this guy could be doing?!" and then hoping to gain a response/insight without letting people know the keyword so they can look into it for you?

    OoooooOo SECRET keyword lol

    Have you checked if his on-page is flawless compared to competitors including yourself having useless structure? Competitor 2 could have thousands of irrelevant backlinks with no/irrelevant anchor text, crappy on-page, etc.
     
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  14. SuPrAiCeR69

    SuPrAiCeR69 Peon

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    #14
    ~kev~ his competitor has 0 backlinks, so posting articles with anchor text is a no go, it would show up in yahoo explorer linkdomain.

    however, i don't agree with your advice on just using the description meta tag will provide ranking benefits like your own site - he should be looking at title, h1, unique content etc etc and quality backlinks with anchor text of that "infamous" keyword.
     
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  15. nosleepno

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    probably has a farm of splogs, with robots.txt disallowing yahoo, or meta tags "noindex, follow"

    seen that a few times recently, people try to cover their tracks by keeping yahoo out.
     
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    bobbylove321 Active Member

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    Look at the h1,h2,keywords,title,description, and alt tags. Look at the structure. Run a program like SEO Elite on it and find out.
     
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    #17
    This guy could be doing a lot of things, but in one word: SEO
     
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    #18
    tricky answer nosleepno
     
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    #19
    Can't help without knowing either the keyword or the URL.
     
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    #20
    That means he got internal secret PageRank 11 and "sticky No 1 site position". Quite expensive, this guy bought new Ferrari for Matt Cutts + lifetime free fuel. Position will remain unchanged until Cuil beats Google.
     
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