Obama an Elitist? Just Another Word For Uppity Negro.

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    It has been bothering for some time that the word Elitist is used frequently to describe Barack Obama.

    From The Mansfield Herald:

    White America has a name for Black people who don’t fit into the stereotypical mold of Athletes, or Entertainers.. Black people with Education. Money. Faith. Pride. Dignity, and Patriotism.

    They call them Uppity Negros. - That means that they are so surprised that all of the stereotypes that they have learned, and been comfortable with, by watching MTV, and listing to daddy all these years, are so disproven and blown out of the water, that they cannot let go of that underlying superior attitude that so many carry. So they have to create something that will allow them to feel on top of the self perceived “racial pyramid”. “He must think he’s better than us“…hence the term “Uppity Negro” or Elitist.

    It’s one of the most juvenile attitudes of modern day racism. Much like the single guy that blames rejection from a woman on the made up fantasy that “she must be a lesbian”. Yes, It’s that stupid, ridiculous and completely unfounded, but it gives him a made up excuse to feel better about himself, or superior, Which is what racism is.
     
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  2. northpointaiki

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    Hmansfield,

    Regarding Obama, I don't get that "elitist" is an artful dodge for "uppity." I think it's a charge the Democratic party has faced for some time - a party with a rep for wealthy, urban, education swathe that cuts to "highly educated," out of touch with "values" folks that have, whether one likes it or not (I like it not), gained a voice on the national stage.

    To some extent, I actually think it's a fair assessment. If I roundly condemn the conflation of theology and politics that has taken root in America over the last, relatively short period of time, and the idiocy and arrogance of this administration's refusal to countenance any chink in the armor of its self-induced mythology, I also take issue with the superciliousness with which many liberals - and I suppose, at the end of the day, I'm one of them - deal with others not sharing their views. Most recently, in 2000, Gore faced it, in 2004, John Kerry faced it, a few months back, both Obama and, especially, his rival, Hillary Clinton, faced it, and now, heading into November, Obama is facing it. His gift is that he can allay the charge by a great personal charisma, something not seen, I lay my hands on it, since JFK.

    That said, I think there are a whole host of things Obama has faced that has nothing to do with his policies, and everything to do with a lot of people freaked a bi-racial candidate is about to become President. The smears come from these fears, and though baseless, some have latched on to them for a kind of personal security, it seems to me.
     
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    I couldn't have said it better myself. :), however, the article goes on to point out how we put athletes and entertainers on a pedestal, clamoring for photos of them taking out the trash, yet they wouldn't piss on us if we were on fire.

    We have created real elitist in our country, and some of them don't even have a job.
     
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    AWESOME ARTICLE!

    So humorous too. Gives some perspective on the term "Elitist" as well. :D
     
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    I don't see Obama as an elitist but rather an urban populist. He would make a good mayor of Mayberry.

    [​IMG]
     
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    If this logic were true, elitists would be the ones calling Obama an elitist. I'm not so sure whether to call him an elitist, he seems like an alright guy, but Hillary is a textbook definition.

    The real elitists are the ones that think blacks aren't smart or capable enough to handle things on their on so they favor affirmative action. Real elitists call black republicans traitors because they think all blacks should buy into the whole poor helpless image.

    One reason people might call him an elitist is because they're tired of people "putting him on a pedestal" and acting like he's a damn god.
     
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    By that definition, even Brad & Angelina's twin babies are elitists because a magazine paid millions for their pics and that wouldn't happen if people didn't want to see those pics [Thus "putting the babies on a pedestal"].
    An elitist is an elitist by his own action, not because many other people put him on a pedestal.

    I saw something to this effect in hmansfield's article and it's funny and sad as well at the same time.
     
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    Yes, but people felt that way about John, and Bobby Kennedy. They literally ran alongside the motorcades just to touch or be close to them, and cried when they touched them. And they were from one of the richest families in the nation.

    No one ever accused them of being elitist.

    On the other hand, MLK, Rosa Parks, and many other civil rights personalities and leaders of the 50's and 60's were constantly being called "uppidy n***ers", and even as recently as Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton.

    Don't you see the difference?
     
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    The idea that "White America" sits around talking about issues like this is pretty racist in itself.
     
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    There is no white america or black america.

    America is and always has been ....... red, white and blue.

    [Ok, there's some white in there :D]
     
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    Every member of Congress is an elitist, by virtue of their financial resources alone. These people have no idea how middle and lower class Americans are affected by the laws they create, because they are not usually subject to those laws. The rich can get out of almost anything.
     
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    I read the prior 10 posts thinking "does anyone even know what it means to be an elitist?"

    Thanks for showing that someone understands why obama is considered an elitist.


    Also, does anyone besides me see the racism in the article? (uppity negro)

    The article references Condoleeza Rice whom the left labeled a few different things along with Colon Powell. Such as "house slave" and sell-out.
     
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    No problem. ;)

    But remember, it's not just Obama. It's all of them...including the ones typically calling him an elitist.
     
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    I hear us common people calling him an elitist, but are you saying I am?

    I have nothing to put me in the elitist corner. I wasn't born with the silver (or gold) spoon, no family history of great power, no body had to die for me to get more power, etc...

    or "all of them" such as many of the politicians? then Yes many (not all) are elitists. Some actually worked their way there others bought their way in.
     
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    Sorry, "all of them" was referring to all members of Congress, not necessarily those calling him an elitist. I was definitely not calling you an elitist. :)

    I would contend though, that even if politicians worked their way up to their current position, they are now elitists.
     
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    Yeah in your dreams. America is a nation divided along racial and economic lines.
     
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    Yes, my dreams.

    Like Martin Luther King said "I have a dream"
     
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    Not racial - economic.

    "Rich people have always stayed on top by dividing white people from colored people - but white people got more in common with colored people then they do with rich people" - Warren Beatty in "Bullworth"
     
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    Good posts from northpointaiki and hmansfield.

    There's no doubt like Obama is part of an urban elite.

    This is the central problem that has hindered the Democratic Party for decades.

    But then there's no doubt that Bush is part of an elite too...

    There's also little doubt that Obama has a far greater intellect than Bush has ever had...

    There seems to be a problem the wider American public regarding intellectualism and public office.

    A lot of the American public prefer leaders who portray themselves as average Joe Publics rather than academic and... er... intelligent...

    What the US needs is a powerhouse intellect for President - not some guy who props up the bar talking shit...

    At the end of the day the President of the USA is the single most important position in the world.

    Americans elect a President not just for the US, but also for the rest of the world...
     
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    And yourself as well and everyone else. It is just that the posts that have completely different opinions from our own are hard to like and appreciate.
     
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