Review New PTC site

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    ronnyb, Aug 4, 2008 IP
  2. cobwoyrob

    cobwoyrob Member

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    Cool design, and I'm happy you're already racking up members.

    Just make sure you can handle paying your members $0.02 a click. A lot of top PTC sites can't even handle that rate. I'm not too involved with PTC, so I'm not sure what script you're using. What is it?

    Build your reputation, and if you can handle $0.02 a click, and still make profit, then more power to you! You'll have a popular, booming PTC site in no time once you build up some trust!
     
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    S_Tirmizi Banned

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    #3
    seems ok. however, the main header picture could be changed at it seems very dull ... and not adding to the website infact loses the whole techi appearence ....
     
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  4. ronnyb

    ronnyb Well-Known Member

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    Thanks, I am using a modified Aurora Seamless edition script.

    The $0.02 is no problem, it is for the extended view (60 sec), the rate for standard view (30 sec) is $0.01

    The advertisers pays more for extended view, and therfore i can pay more to members.
     
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    ronnyb Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for your review, however I am happy with the main header, so i will not be changing that.

    Thanks anyway, all input are appresiated.
     
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    iffy Banned

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    the site is good i like, i like even the header, good navigation and easy to browse, i am sure the site will work.
    good luck
     
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  7. ronnyb

    ronnyb Well-Known Member

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    Thank you ! :D
     
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    chaoscript Well-Known Member

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    Good luck man.
     
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    KonaGirl Peon

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    I think the site looks great, however, I only saw a price list for banner ads and nothing for solo text ads. Will you only be selling banner ads or did I miss it?
     
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    deathshadow Acclaimed Member

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    PAINFUL to watch load - took almost 30 seconds here and I'm on a 15MBPS connect. Ping time to your host is good so I'm assuming the server is overloaded as 171k in 20 files while large given what the page is, isn't THAT large.

    Large images in the content area create too much white-space around them and consume entirely too much space for simple clip-art. The text is the important part, it should be what the visitor is drawn to, not some amaturish clipart.

    Your layout is broken on my machine in both IE and Opera - and I know why. I run large fonts/120 dpi on my system, and you used dynamic fonts inside fixed PX width containers - which is instantly made of /FAIL/. While inside your content area where the height can be dynamic and wrapping isn't an issue you can get away with that, inside a narrow fixed width header with a non-dynamic image background things will tend to break badly. (see attached pic)

    With no doctype you are dealing with the headache of IE being in quirks mode, and to top it off the 33 validation errors are pretty much meaningless since those are made on assumptions that may or may not be correct. Pretty much you don't even have valid HTML 3.2, much less anything 'modern' here.

    The endless horde of nested tables, lack of semantic markup, use of entities and breaks for spacing, presentational markup and in general dated coding style makes there be more of 1998 to this site 'under the hood' than 2008. Because of this you've increased operating costs, made it harder to maintain, and in general have done little or no future-proofing.

    You have 25 tables on a page that even using tables for layout should only need ONE. Here's a BIG tip - if your table is only going to have one TD, there is NO REASON to use a table unless you REALLY need vertical positioining of dynamic content inside a fixed height. PERIOD. Since you aren't doing that, 24 of your tables are completely pointless.

    The code seems to waste tons of time declaring language that is no different than what SHOULD be declared ONCE in the header... It seems to double nest STRONG for no fathomable reason, and to sum up you are throwing 11k of markup out there just to display 1.8k of content - almost three times what's needed for such a simple page. (I'd ballpark that as 4.5k)

    Pretty much, chuck it and start over with minimalist semantic markup and modern coding techniques.
     

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    ryandanielt Well-Known Member

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    False user counts and ads viewed are not the best way to gather new members. When I signed up the number of members did not even move and from what I can see it was just a number put there and also how can there be over 500 ads view when I looked and only saw 1 banner, secondly I like the design just not the page loading times.

    This is 1 of the only reasons why I will not use many of these sites because they are made wrong. By this I mean people just falsify information just to make others think that there are lots of users and money paid out.


    This is just my thoughts nothing personal!
     
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  12. ronnyb

    ronnyb Well-Known Member

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    There in no false stats, if you diddent see the counter move try hitting your F5 button.... Page needs to be reloaded to update counters.

    there are between 7 and 15 ads every day, so lets say that 100 members click 5 ads, then the adview is 500 for that day.

    deathshadow:

    Thank you very much for your input. I will make use of several of your points when we make the next update.

    We have moved to faster servers, as the one we was on had to many sites and got very slow in some periods.
     
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    #13
    Start by making your template more official.
     
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    ronnyb Well-Known Member

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    Thanks. Text ads is now added, you find them under "Featured Ad Impressions"
     
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    #15
    The Good :

    Fast load time

    Nice graphics (minimal is good)

    Good layout (easy to read and find what you are looking for)

    The Bad :

    The scrolling text on the left mod (adds a cheap feel to an otherwise very nice site)

    The logo needs work

    Overall :

    Good Site ;)
     
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  16. KonaGirl

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    I am now looking at the featured ads "25000 - $2.50"

    I am assuming that this mean the ad will be shown 25000 times at 804 members, and will be repeated amongst the members until all 25000 have been seen. Is this a correct assumption?

    Once a payment is made for the ad, does PayPal redirect you to a place where you insert your ad to place it? It states that "Your first order must be manually approved, all your future orders thereafter will be instant."

    Would you mind explaining further how this works as I am considering placing an ad with you.

    Oh, BTW, I had no problems with your site loading on IE, FireFox or Flock browsers. It loaded instantly.
     
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    I would tend to agree with most of the comments from this post.

    The site did seem a bit cheapened and can be cleaned up. It takes away from a good product.

    Cheers!
     
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    head's graphics to big and dark
     
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  19. ronnyb

    ronnyb Well-Known Member

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    Yes the ad will be shown 25000 times, but not only to the members, but to all visitors, as the feature ad area is in the left side bar on index.

    Step 2 is where you insert your ad, and that is before payment. So you make the ad before you come to the payment page.

    Mannually approvement of first order, is only a security issue, we need to be sure that the buyer is the buyer. So this only means that we have a closer look to the order before we make it live. When the first order is approved, your account is switched to instant approvement, this meaning your payment will be accepted instantly without us checking your order. ( We still check the ads so that no TOS is broken )
     
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  20. KonaGirl

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    Thanks for the information. I do so appreciate your time and patience, but I have one more question. You say that the ads will not only be viewed by emails being sent to the members who are being paid to read them,
    How then do you calculate a 25000 viewing? I understand it being easy enough to know how many emails are sent out with ads, but are you calculating viewings by your visitor counter? If this is so, would it then be that 804 emails will go out with an ad and the 24196 remaining would be calculated by each new visitor to the home page? Or do you send the email out several times a month, or is this all negotiable once the ad is paid for?
     
    KonaGirl, Aug 18, 2008 IP