I found the download links on Google. Can I share?

Hi,

For those who are affiliate marketers will sometimes want to find products before they market it. I mean, it is common sense if we want to promote something(we gotta learn about it first,right?)

Ok, this is the legal problem. It seems that Google is *maybe* has search capabilities to search for everything. If you have the correct keywords.
I found the download pages of several products through Google.

What if I download the product and tell others of the available download links? This is not copyright infringement right?

1)I DID NOT give away the material? I didnt even share as P2P networks will do?
2)Its a search term in Google. If they really want to take it up, isn't it Google's fault?instead of mine.

I understand that some products(especially those high end products) will encrypt their download pages will ejunkie or some other program. So, no one can download it that way.

My question is:

If I want to share the product with others, can't I just give away the download link to the rest ?

 

NO!​

You wouldn't want something that you worked hard to create,
drove traffic to, and were selling to put food on your table shared
WOULD YOU?

Someone with a conscience and a sense of HONESTY would even
tell the product owner that their items were seen by a search engine,
and that maybe the owner should "move" the item.

Be Well!
ECS Dave

P.S. Additionally, if you downloaded the item, and found it useful,
maybe you should PAY for it? Just a thought...

 

DP is not a warez forum. There are many software developers/programmers and affiliate marketers that frequent this forum and do not think highly of people giving away their bread and butter.

 

I don't think it means to be warez... Let's assume that Kbox is not uploading the material onto any forum to share, there won't be intellectual property infringement. And even if someone did create the ebook with hard work, Kbox didn't steal it, right? He didn't buy it and share it with others, right?

I personally think that there is no copyright infringement.

 

From the sound of the OP's post, these eBooks/products are being sold. Anything that circumvents spending money to purchase those products is wrong in my eyes.

 

Downloading copyrighted materials illegitimately as you described is illegal, as is distributing download links to others. My advice if someone asks you for a download link for anything just tell them to google it as they would any other way. That way they get the information they want and you stay out of trouble.

 

It depends where your site is hosted... But if you give google links then you could also give rapidshare links... so why google links?

But if your looking for warez its very easy to find The people that are looking for a pirated product know how to find it.. So they will get it. You cant stop piracy its to late for that.. You have to provide a better product then the pirated version but allot of people are to stupid to understand that and stop crap things in there product like drm & copy protection.

The pirated version of a product is allot better most of the time no annoying cd's that i have to put in my pc. I can play all my music files in the devices i want. I do not have to w8 ages before its released in my country.

Somtimes a product is worth the money but most of the time not..If I realy like it i buy it.

 

Copyright infringement is not the term you're looking for.. because no, you're not infringing on a copyright by giving someone the ability to STEAL it themselves.


You ARE STEALING though, and by giving away links to the download pages, you would be aiding in the ability for others to STEAL.

It's illegal any way you slice it.



It's like walking up to a bike rack and taking a bike that isn't locked up. Same thing, it's still stealing regardless of whether someone locked it up.

Same as walking into someones house (website) through an open door (back door you found on google) and taking whatever you want... It's still STEALING.

 

sbongo,

Just suppose that early on in your marketing career (don't know if you are marketing, just supposing here), you didn't know about blocking index access to your products' download folder, and you had invested time and money to put your products there. You've also spent time (and maybe money) on your sales pages, and driving traffic to them. After a few successful sales, you notice that sales are coming slower, and slower, until they almost stop. Curious, you check your server logs, and see lots of downloading going on. You look to the search engines for maybe a reason, and find that your products have been indexed. Would you be very happy? I think not. You'd look for a solution to the problem.

One thing to do as soon as you discover this issue, is to move the files. Replace the download links in your thank you pages to the new locations, and replace the old files with links back to the respective sales pages. To prevent further "sharing" (or indexing) you could place a blank index.html file in the folder, or better yet an index file with links back to the sales pages. I, personally use Rapid Action Profits, though there are other solutions, which allows you to place your products in a hidden folder that can't be indexed.

At any rate, the bottom line is this, as snowbird (and I) have said:

"If the product is being sold, it's WRONG to be getting it free just because it got indexed by a search engine."

Be Well!
ECS Dave

 

I appreciate everyone for their comments.

But, I am seeking an answer which defines as "legally wrong". I definitely understand that from ECS Dave and the others that this is *Immoral wrong*.

I understand the point about giving rapidshare links, but this is understood clearly to be wares uploads. Now, what I am trying to say is that I do give the DIRECT download links of the merchant to others. Yes, ECS Dave has put it correctly that the logs will be increased. I totally agree.

Again, let me reiterate that this is immoral but still legal, I have dabbled in Blackhat marketing ever since.

The questions which (I have yet to seeked an answer from this thread), is that, is it legally wrong?

Morally Wrong? Yes, I agree 100%, maybe 200% or even 300%. But guys, take a look at the anti-copyright team who is looking to sue the Sweden government soon for damages. Yes, I am talking about Piratebay.org and they are clearly immoral people who make big bucks - and yet, they do things according to the law.

I am still looking forward to more answers.

Thanks for your replies.

 

Is this what you want to hear:

1. It is legally wrong in the United States.

2. You could be charged with many crimes. Including intellectual property crimes as well as fraud, conspiracy to defraud, contributory copyright infringement, etc.

If you want more details pay for it yourself. I don't like to help thieves. It is far worse to make a product available to others than to just simply download it yourself. Unless you are making money from it, what would be the point of helping people steal. You desire to do so would appear to be so that you could benefit in some way.

Just be aware that this thread will make excellent evidence for anyone who wanted prosecute you. If you are giving away links to other people's products, I hope you get caught. Have a nice day.

 

See the quote above, made by a ONE TIME poster...

I don't mean to say that just because it is from a person who has only posted one time,
that it means any less than what it says...

I don't know of many places where THEFT is legal...

Your answer is here kbox, should you wish to SEE it.

Be Well!
ECS Dave

 

Its a illegal in the usa but if you host your website in Singapore Hongkong etc no problem... You can find some web hosting that allows warez links here on dp.

And i do not agree its not stealing it copying. If you steal a car then the owner cant drive anymore. But if you can copy a car the owner can still use his car.....I don't care if they copy my car Maybe i can copy from him something else

 

You're wrong, and you're missing the point...

To get a bit "personal", if I "copy" your technique of intimacy
with your girlfriend and she likes my way better, and leaves you,
would you say that I "stole" your girlfriend?

If I "copy" the logo of any major corporation,
and use it on my websites, do you think I'd get away with it?

Obviously, to be "splitting hairs" as some of you are (and the OP),
I'd have to guess that each of you are what is commonly known as:

DISHONEST

Be Well!
ECS Dave

 

Ok, i got so fed up that I decided to just consult an attorney about this and he told me that it is legal?

You can share the links, you can't share the product.

You see, people don't buy copyright protection for their URLs. They buy it for their product.

No one contested this in court yet so this should be a fun thread.

Have a nice day.

 

A girlfriend is not a product!

I agree with you with the logo.

But if you use it for private use i do not see the problem... I have more then 1000 dvd's. Do you realy think I'm gonna buy all of them? maybe 50 or something..

 

Why is there a question mark if you consulted an attorney?

One does not "buy" a copyright, or copyright protection.

Your "attorney" is an idiot if he is advising you about US law.

 

Ok, I sense much arguments. And I seriously don't want to blow this up. I humbly pray the moderators close this thread.

Thanks.