Child Killer is the New Hero of Arabs [Sick and Disgusting]

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Lemon116, Jul 17, 2008.

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Arabs celebrating the release of Child Killer...

  1. Have crossed the line, I hate those barbarians.

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  2. Are Sick. Its just stupid and evil.

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  3. Is fine. Nothing wrong with it, I support them.

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  1. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #161
    Well since I am not Muslim, and I am not an expert in the Quran, I accept it when Muslims tell me the Quran does not preach hate against Jews and Infidels. So, I conclude that those Muslims who do say it does must be mis-interpreting the Quran.

    Since you are from California, like me, and live in Mexico not some Muslim country - do you care to tell everyone what knowledge you have that would make your opinion any more valid than mine?
     
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  2. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #162
    Wow -- super nasty. Reality sucks.

    This appears to be a fairly accurate representation of the truth.

    Simple. It's in the Qua'ran. Hatred is not only preached in the Qua'an -- it is demanded by the Qua'ran.

    I'm sorry friend, but it's completely ridiculous to blame the media which reports murder instead of blaming the murderers who commit murder. It's nonsensical.

    You may have difficulty believing it, but it is true. Open your eyes. Read the Qua'ran. Listen to the people who do read the Qua'ran -- Osama bin Laden and his followers.

    Most Muslims -- including most Muslims on DP -- don't bother to read and understand the Qua'ran.

    The Qua'ran promotes terrorism and condones murdering (non-Muslim) children. The Qua'ran forbids respect for non-Muslims. It's all in the Qua'ran, you can read it for yourself.

    You're going to have a hard time destroying the State of Israel without murdering more little girls. You had better get used to it now.

    Some people are just disgusting. That's something that you are going to have to get used to.

    Some people have such low self-esteem that they have to shit on everything good in order to feel better about themselves. It's depressing and awful, but it's reality.

    You tell us kid.

    Tell me, why will you not accept peace as long as the State of Israel exists?

    Not all terrorists are Muslims, but Muslims are far overrepresented in the terrorist ranks.

    Muslims make up ~20% of the worlds population and ~90% of the worlds terrorists. This is not coincidental. This is a direct result of the teachings of Muhammad.
     
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    trocobob Banned

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    #163
    Sorry , I dont blam the Media ,

    Ooooh ! I feel very sorry for you because you dont understant the Quran , Im sure that you are posting what you heard it from the Medias /Street / freinds ..

    Tt is really shocking to heard that , !!!
    I say that Because I read the Quran , and Through it ,I find that Islam teaches moderation, tolerance, love for fellow humans, justice, fairness, compassion, spirit of sharing and respect for all faiths. Demanding equal rights for all, regardless of race, gender, ethnicity, social status or religion, it teaches respect for all faiths. It harkens its followers to be useful citizens and to answer the call of conscience.
    And I repeat , who dont bother on reading the quran or understand it is Not a Muslim ..
    I assure you also that Who Kills innocents is Not a Muslim , becuase Islam prohibits it ( doesnt matter his Race or religion)
    Who Steal or Terrorise people is Not a Muslim, and deserve punishment .

    That what we can understand from Quran ..


    Freindly
    TR
     
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  4. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #164
    trocobob:

    I appreciate your desire for Islam to be a religion of peace. I understand your desire for Islam to truly mirror your own values. Above all, I respect your values of peace and acceptance.

    Unfortunately, the religion you are worshipping is not Islam.

    From my reading of the Qua'ran, Osama bin Laden is completely accurate. What he teaches is what the Qua'an teaches.

    What you are teaching, although much more positive, is decidedly un-Islamic.

    Sorry man. I wish you were right.
     
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    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    #165
    I think releasing Kuntar was a bad mistake, did you guys read this?:
    source
     
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  6. Will.Spencer

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    #166
    It's what I expected. It is what the Qua'ran commands him to do.
     
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    atvking Active Member

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    #167
    i could not have said it better:

    Aside from the fact that the media misrepresents Islam because of ignorance, the media is also a profit-seeking organization which often seeks to create a false image of reality.
     
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    webwork Banned

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    #168
    Suprisingly this is something many people still cannot grasp.
     
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  9. Will.Spencer

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    #169
    It is appalling that some people choose to blame the media instead of blaming the bastards like this guy.

    CNN didn't bash that little girl's head in -- Samir Kuntar did.
     
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    #170
    I agree.

    We shouldn't point the finger at all the Arabs in the world because of him, nor should we point the finger at an entire religion.


    I wonder what would happen if I also highlighted all the parts from the bible which contained any words like hell, punishment, or anything else that involves death.

    Oh...well what do ya know... Sounds pretty familiar, doesn't it Will?
     
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  11. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #171
    What about all the people who cheer and celebrate and honor a child murderer? I think those people, whoever they are, display an appalling embrace of of what is evil and wrong in this world.

    I point the finger at those people because they embrace rather than condemn a child murderer.
     
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    debunked Prominent Member

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    #172
    Why is it whenever islam is scrutinized someone always tries to scrutinize the Bible even when talking with an atheist like Will?? Seems kind of stupid doesn't it.

    Besides that "trying" to make the Bible look like it says something it doesn't by copy and pasting from some website instead of doing a little bit of research and reading to make sure you don't look like an idiot using the copy/paste function of your keyboard.....
     
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  13. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #173
    It's extremely stupid.

    The "two wrongs make a right" argument didn't work in pre-school and it doesn't work here.

    Worse, even as an Atheist, I can point out the errors in most of those insipid anti-Christian arguments. Those people don't even understand the difference between the old covenant and the new covenant. Puhhllleeeezee... if you are going to criticize a religion you have at least some responsibility to understand it first.

    Of course, the same is true if you are going to defend a religion. I see many people here defending Islam who have never seriously studied it -- Muslims and non-Muslims alike. Muslims tend to use the "I am Muslim, therefore Islam must be good" reasoning. Non-Muslims often use the "There is no good or evil. Everything is morally equivalent, so calling any one thing better or worse than any other thing is politically incorrect." reasoning. Both arguments are ridiculously stupid.

    That why your opinion carries so much weight around here debunked -- you actually read and study before you write.

    Too many people just enjoy mouthing off and aren't willing or able to earn the right to be heard.
     
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  14. webwork

    webwork Banned

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    #174
    Because people portray Islam as a religion of violence and then cite passages to prove this theory.

    Citing passages from the Bible which are much the same shows that Christianity is no more a religion of violence than Islam. It's fair to say the US is more familiar with Christianity than Islam.

    This had nothing to do with Will or the fact that he's athiest.

    It just looks like you had trouble grasping this point.
     
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  15. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #175
    Should we ignore when people who commit acts of violence themselves say it is justified by the Koran and Islam?
     
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    #176
    in regard to voicing negative opinion about islam. absolutely.
    it's the smart thing to do
     
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    #177
    When Christian extremists bomb abortion clinics and kill innocent people do you develop any hard feelings towards Christiany?
     
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #178
    I have never expressed a negative opinion about every member of a religion. They are all individuals who can be judged on their own actions. When good people and religious groups fail to distance themselves from action taken in the name of their religion they are inviting others to question their acceptance of the action.

    To ignore it and pretend there is no religious aspect to much of the terrorism in today's world is foolhardy and dangerous.

    When someone commits a violent act and says their religion condones it or requires it I believe that was their motivation.

    Do I think all people who are Muslims or Christians are responsible for the actions of some members of their relgion - no. I have never taken that position.

    When leaders of those groups condemn those acts, that is a clear indication they do not accept the acts as being done in the name of their religion.

    When they respond with silence it is tantamount to support.

    When they come out in support of the acts, they deserve to be condemned.

    It is as though you both want to ignore that some Muslims do commit crimes in the name of their God, and that some Christians commit crimes in the name of their God. And you both seem to think we should just stick our heads in the sand and ignore it for fear of offending someone.

    webwork seems to relish in defending people solely because they are Muslim, regardless of their complicity in religious violence.
     
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    #179
    al qada and other terrorists are our enemy. they try to mislead us. I am not talking about the guy that commits the act but their leaders. they know they are weak but what they try to do is to incite a war with all the muslems.
    so they try to manipulate the rhetoric to create an animosity between muslems and others. lets not fall for this trap.
    as far as muslems not talking against terrorist i belive you just not looking
    there are muslem iraqi soldiers dying next to our own. the afganestan army the same thing. in egypt saudi arabia indonesia and all other countries they are fighting the terrorists. so they are doing their share.
    palestanians are a different issue as they have a grievance that is internationally recognized and should not be mixed. I believe this was also israeli position right after 9/11
    do you know anything about http://historycommons.com/
     
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    #180
    People from all over the world have been murdering in the name of God since forever. And holy wars in that area have been going on since who knows how long - think about the Crusades.

    As long as there is an Us vs. Them mentality the killing will certainly never stop.


    I am extremely against religious extremists. They are the real threats to peace, and you can't lump the extremist groups in with the majority of the religion. It's ignorant at best.
     
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