How can you get 1 out of 15 or 20 conversions?

I'm beginning to doubt anybody who says they're making 1 sale for every 15 or 20 visitors to their landing page. They make it sound like people have their credit cards pulled out before they visit their landing page. I've created my own unique e-book that doesn't even get those kinds of conversions. Are people that say they pay $1.00-$2.00 a click and get a "steady" 1 out of 20 conversion rate simply just telling a tale or are they for real? 1 out of 100 or 200 sounds realistic but not 1 out of 20. However, if you paid $1.00-$2.00 a click for these kinds of conversions it would cost you over $100 a customer!! Please explain this.

 

You can get it as long as you discuss the program in the forum...If you just wait people to sign up from your website without knowing the program, it will take long time because some people visit our website accidently. he..he..

 

Yeah, that's an interesting approach to evaluate the value of paid ads.

Seen from a pure website point of view, it is also worthwile to consider the conversion efficieny (i.e. long term average conversions per visit or visits per conversion, as you like it). That will tell you how much your website (and your seo proficiency) is worth in terms of equivalent pay for the same number of ads conversions.

I always have the impression that this is a consideration people completely forget when paying for ads. It might be much more interesting to invest in seo...

Rgds

 

Sorry, I have no idea what you are talking about

 

Even if the product or service you're promoting is free it may still be difficult to get those kinds of conversions. And most pay-per-lead affiliate programs only pay about $1.00 or $2.00. If you're paying about $.50 or $1.00 per clicks you're advertising dollar will well exceed your earnings.

 

Basically what I'm saying is that these "claims" of people earning thousands of dollars a day in affiliate revenue through PPC isn't realistic. That's why many of these people end up creating their own e-book and making thousands of that. They understand the concept but their TRUE earnings are completely fabricated. Some people even say that they earned $1.000 the other day even though it costed them $1500 to earn that. If you know how to work the search engines for FREE traffic then "yes" you can probably earn a lot of money through affiliate marketing. I've gotten a few affiliate conversions off FREE marketing technique. But paying for your traffic is another story.

 

earning money via ppc is not easy thats why affiliate marketing have gain popularity where you pay for sales only .. As far as conversion exists not all products pay low .. Also conversion depends on niche for example if you advertise for loan products etc you get paid for leads .. and a form filled can pay you $30-$40 ... so ppc is also profitable thats why it exists however its not profitable for all niches or all programs .

 

These are my best performances:

Free Sign-Ups : Converts 1/5 : I make $12 : I spend $4
Buy Offers: Converts 1/16 : I make $38 : I spend : $17

Course I have done campaigns with much higher ROI; but the conversations are at 5%-10% with much higher pay.

 

christ is right, lol


its all about how much you promote and how good at promoting you are

 

check out PPC Coach - it gives step by step tutorials.

 

Can anybody recommend programs that pay you about $10 or $12 or a FREE sign-up with no catch to it? I haven't found a lot out there. Also, was that a one day gig or do you make a steady amount of sales with that conversion rate?

 

With these free sign up CPA offers, do you simply direct link to the offer page or get your own landing page? I know this is such a cliche questions, but really, for those one page sign up, email/zip code submit type of offer which most CPA networks happens to have, is designing a landing page to pre-sell a wise option? Or most affiliats tend to do direct linking with those type of offers?

 

They are for real and really serious about it too.

Everything on your page needs to be tested, tracked and tweaked to maximize conversions.

No little nice advice will substitute for you testing everything and tracking your results.

No sense in "trying" something someone suggests and taking it as gospel or guidance when you can just

test and track changes to improve your site's conversions yourself.

It's always worth it.

Hope this helps,
Doug

 

I had been selling digital products (see my signature) since mid 2007 and I would think that 1 out of 100 is possible.

The clickbank products I had been promoting? Zero.

 

Nothing is really free, no matter how the offer puts it, a free sign up or get your free ipod/nintendo wii, etc... In the end, the customers still pays, sometimes the offer will be like free 14 day trial, after that $$$ per month. sometimes it will be like submit your email and get your free what ever (subject to completion of the offer requirement - which we all know isn't good for users, but the unwary might fall).. Now, lot of these offers are quite spammy looking, but there're still many people signs up for those. But I really have a question, that is

When we promote these so-called FREE sign up type of offers through PPC, should we emphasize the word "FREE" so that we can capture those interested in getting free stuff (and there're lots of 'cheapstakes' out there. BUT when they see the offer, and if they have a quick skim, it is very likely they will find out that they do need to pay for it evenutally.

SO what will they react, if they will be "oh shit dude, i thought this is gonna be FREE, Period" and they leave which lowers the conversion or what else?

What i'm trying to say is should we or is it a good idea to use the "free" words in our ppc ads or should we aviod targeting the "cheapstakes" at the very beginning?

 

I don't think that those "free stuff" email submits work too well with ppc. They usually only pay out between $1-1.50 per lead. You'll either need a very good conversion rate or very low cost per click to make some money with them.


Besides, the point of those "get a free ipod/game console/laptop" offers is to collect email addresses so the company can spam the hell out of them and sell them to other spammers as well. The terms and conditions that usually no one reads includes accpeting "third party advertisements" aka "spam"

I haven't tried it myself but I heard in order actually to get the "free" gift, you have to complete numerous offers. And sometimes those offers are very expensive too like ordering a year of satellite television, health insurance, or a home alarm system.

 

You're absolutely right, you do end up paid for stuff you don't want and cost more than what you get for "free".

I haven't used many CPA affiliate networks. But from what i've seen from (cpaempire), many of the cpa offers are quite dodgy compare to CJ. for example, the merchant has nothing but a lead form, so when users are sent to the page, they can't find much more info about the merchant. Which makes it hard for me to do some preselling the offer...

 

paid leads???

 

What do you mean?

 

Thanks for the advice guys but I'm still rather skeptical on this entire pay-per-click affiliate concept. Sure, you could probably turn a campaign that gets you a 1 out of 200 conversion rate into a 1 out of 75 conversion rate. But I find it rather hard to believe that you can turn that campaign into a "consistent" 1 out of 15 or 20 conversion rate simply by tweaking like so many of these supposed "affiliate experts" say. Maybe somebody here can completely convince me that this is possible because I don't think it is.