Probably penalized

Discussion in 'Google' started by aikencolon, Jul 30, 2008.

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    My site has been up now for about 3 months, and the domain is over a year old. Yet I still have many pages that are not getting indexed. I am at a loss here. I am guessing these pages don't meet some requirement or something is wrong with them. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Here are a few examples:

    http://www.aikencolon.com/Safewaze--Fall-Protection-Fall-Arrest_c_482.html

    http://www.aikencolon.com/Ideal--Electrical-Datacom-Telecom_c_7.html

    These are only 2 of many. The problem is those two pages, right now, are my main product lines and 90% of the pages below those pages are not getting indexed either. It is not just google, those pages don't come up in yahoo or live either. I am starting to think the online shopping cart I went with has something to do with it.

    For the common fixes. These pages are included in my sig. The main site is in yahoo directory and has over 800 backlinks, directories, and many very relevalant ones as well. The Safewaze page has a good press release pointed at it through Marketwire. That PR ended up on Reuters, MSNBC, CNBC, a few big newspapers sites, AP, etc.

    I am just at a loss. The only thing I can come up with on the Safewaze page is keyword density is too high, but I doubt that would keep me from being indexed, just lower my SERPs if anything.

    Thanks

    JJ
     
    aikencolon, Jul 30, 2008 IP
  2. Robert T

    Robert T Peon

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    JJ,

    I didn't see a keyword density problem on those two pages but your url's are way way too long. I didn't count them but you have numerous urls on your home page leading to other pages using fall protection fall arrest in them.

    Note the hidden links on your home page aren't a good idea.

    
      69. http://www.aikencolon.com/Safewaze-PPE-Fall-Protection--Fall-Arrest-75ft-58-Lifeline-0221-75-2_p_0-996.html
      70. http://www.aikencolon.com/add_cart.asp?quick=1&item_id=996
      71. http://www.aikencolon.com/Safewaze-PPE-Fall-Protection--Fall-Arrest-300ft-58-Lifeline-0221-300_p_0-1003.html
      72. http://www.aikencolon.com/add_cart.asp?quick=1&item_id=1003
      73. http://www.aikencolon.com/Safewaze-PPE-Fall-Prevention--Fall-Resist-Tower-Assembly-3708-SBH_p_0-1022.html
      74. http://www.aikencolon.com/add_cart.asp?quick=1&item_id=1022
      75. http://www.aikencolon.com/Ideal-BNC-Compression-Connectors--BNC-89-5057-895057-RG-6-Compression-Connector--Jar-of-50_p_0-1028.html
      76. http://www.aikencolon.com/add_cart.asp?quick=1&item_id=1028
      77. http://www.aikencolon.com/Ideal-85-588-85588-BNC-Tee-Adapter-Jack-to-Plug-to-Jack-50-Ohm-Commercial-Grade--Bag-of-5_p_0-1050.html
      78. http://www.aikencolon.com/add_cart.asp?quick=1&item_id=1050
      79. http://www.aikencolon.com/Ideal-86-502-86502-BNC-Plug-RG-59-PVC-75-Ohm-Commercial-Grade--Box-of-100_p_0-1040.html
      80. http://www.aikencolon.com/add_cart.asp?quick=1&item_id=1040
      81. http://www.aikencolon.com/Ideal-85-345-85345-6-Position-6-contact-round-solid-RJ-11--Box-of-25_p_0-1068.html
      82. http://www.aikencolon.com/add_cart.asp?quick=1&item_id=1068
      83. http://www.aikencolon.com/Ideal-86-395-86395-6-Position-6-contact-round-solid-RJ-11--Box-of-100_p_0-1069.html
      84. http://www.aikencolon.com/add_cart.asp?quick=1&item_id=1069
      85. http://www.aikencolon.com/Ideal-86-401-86401-6-Position-4-contact-flat-stranded-RJ-11--Box-of-100_p_0-1073.html
      86. http://www.aikencolon.com/add_cart.asp?quick=1&item_id=1073
      87. http://www.aikencolon.com/Ideal-85-402-85402-6-Position-6-contact-flat-stranded-RJ-11--Box-of-50_p_0-1074.html
      88. http://www.aikencolon.com/add_cart.asp?quick=1&item_id=1074
      89. http://www.aikencolon.com/Ideal-86-403-86403-8-Position-8-contact-flat-stranded-RJ-45--Box-of-100_p_0-1078.html
      90. http://www.aikencolon.com/add_cart.asp?quick=1&item_id=1078
      91. http://www.aikencolon.com/Ideal-86-925-86925-UR-I-3-Wire-Butt-Splice-IDC--Box-of-100_p_0-1080.html
      92. http://www.aikencolon.com/add_cart.asp?quick=1&item_id=1080
      93. http://www.aikencolon.com/Safewaze-PPE-Fall-Prevention--Fall-Resist-3ft-Web-Positioning-Lanyard-3210_p_0-1011.html
      94. http://www.aikencolon.com/add_cart.asp?quick=1&item_id=1011
      95. http://www.3dcart.com/
    
       Hidden links:
      96. http://www.aikencolon.com/Ideal-DataComm-Hand-Tools_c_160-1.html
      97. http://www.aikencolon.com/view_category.asp?cat=9
      98. http://www.aikencolon.com/view_category.asp?cat=33
      99. http://www.aikencolon.com/Ideal-86-030-86030-F-Series-Crimp-Plug-RG-6-Quad-Shield--Box-of-100_p_0-1059.html
     100. http://www.aikencolon.com/Safewaze-PPE-Fall-Protection--Fall-Arrest-Bulk-58-Rope-Z58600_p_0-984.html
     101. http://www.aikencolon.com/Safewaze-PPE-Fall-Protection--Fall-Arrest-Bulk-34-Lifeline-Rope-Z341200_p_0-987.html
     102. http://www.aikencolon.com/Safewaze-PPE-Fall-Protection--Fall-Arrest-75ft-58-Lifeline-0221-75-2_p_0-996.html
     103. http://www.aikencolon.com/Safewaze-PPE-Fall-Protection--Fall-Arrest-300ft-58-Lifeline-0221-300_p_0-1003.html
     104. http://www.aikencolon.com/Safewaze-PPE-Fall-Prevention--Fall-Resist-Tower-Assembly-3708-SBH_p_0-1022.html
     105. http://www.aikencolon.com/Ideal-BNC-Compression-Connectors--BNC-89-5057-895057-RG-6-Compression-Connector--Jar-of-50_p_0-1028.html
     106. http://www.aikencolon.com/Ideal-85-588-85588-BNC-Tee-Adapter-Jack-to-Plug-to-Jack-50-Ohm-Commercial-Grade--Bag-of-5_p_0-1050.html
     107. http://www.aikencolon.com/Ideal-86-502-86502-BNC-Plug-RG-59-PVC-75-Ohm-Commercial-Grade--Box-of-100_p_0-1040.html
     108. http://www.aikencolon.com/Ideal-85-345-85345-6-Position-6-contact-round-solid-RJ-11--Box-of-25_p_0-1068.html
     109. http://www.aikencolon.com/Ideal-86-395-86395-6-Position-6-contact-round-solid-RJ-11--Box-of-100_p_0-1069.html
     110. http://www.aikencolon.com/Ideal-86-401-86401-6-Position-4-contact-flat-stranded-RJ-11--Box-of-100_p_0-1073.html
     111. http://www.aikencolon.com/Ideal-85-402-85402-6-Position-6-contact-flat-stranded-RJ-11--Box-of-50_p_0-1074.html
     112. http://www.aikencolon.com/Ideal-86-403-86403-8-Position-8-contact-flat-stranded-RJ-45--Box-of-100_p_0-1078.html
     113. http://www.aikencolon.com/Ideal-86-925-86925-UR-I-3-Wire-Butt-Splice-IDC--Box-of-100_p_0-1080.html
     114. http://www.aikencolon.com/Safewaze-PPE-Fall-Prevention--Fall-Resist-3ft-Web-Positioning-Lanyard-3210_p_0-1011.htmlform id="length" action="">
    
    Code (markup):
    The fall protection tier 2 page on your home page is linked using an image in one place and using asp category redirect in another.

    Your marketwire press release has fall protection fall arrest in about 25 links. Not the best way to do a press release at all in my opinion.

    You would do better with a tier 2 page keyword focused on fall protection and fall arrest with tier 3 pages that are organized by manufacturer and product type rather than spamming many urls with fall protection fall arrest.

    You will see many established blogs using really long urls, some in a silly fashion. I think your site navigation, url's, and the structure will help getting indexed. That said, I see a number of pages that have long urls that are indexed too. Just think you are spammy on the urls big time.

    Your external link building strategy may have something to do with these pages not being indexed too (paid links or spammy anchor text or 20-30 links on one page like the marketwire one).

    Good luck!
     
    Robert T, Jul 30, 2008 IP
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  3. aikencolon

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    thanks. I wasn't sure if I was in trouble with google because of the lack of indexing after a few months or I was not getting indexed for some other reason. I am going to have to figure out how to change the URL's. I use a hosted shopping cart for my site. The catagories on my pages end up becoming the URLs. So I drastically shorten my catagory description, which is bad for SEO, but at the same time shorten my URL, good for SEO.

    Funny you bring up the tiers. I was thinking about moving them around because now I have another safety manufactuer that also has fall protection in their line. So I was already considering doing what you recommended as far as that goes.

    I will horse around with it some more, but eventually I think I will have to farm this type of work out, kind of getting tired of doing it myself. I book marked the link in your sig.

    As far as the other link in my sig, the multimeter etc one. Is that one also too long? It was actually that page that makes me worry that I am being penalized in google. It was the very first page I put up on my site and still to this day not indexed. I also have a page under that catagory that is in the webmaster tools as being indexed using the site: www.aikencolon etc part of webmaster tools. I can put that exact title of that page in google and I get nothing back. Here is what I mean:

    Here is the page on the site: http://www.aikencolon.com/Ideal-Circuit-Tracer-Wire-Tracer_c_418-1.html

    Here is the link from google webmaster tools showing it as indexed http://www.google.com/search?q=site:www.aikencolon.com&hl=en
    3rd page 4th link down is the same page. I took the title of the page and put it in google and nothing came back in SERPs. Leads me to believe google doesn't like something about my site.

    On the flip side, my home page is indexed and has a page rank, a whooping 0, but better than the blue bar :) I also have misc inside pages with PR. All 0 as well but no blue bar.

    Thanks

    JJ

    JJ
     
    aikencolon, Jul 30, 2008 IP
  4. Robert T

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    You are not using original content. See this link
    http://copyscape.com
    Enter the url you provided and click the Amazon link.
    Create your own content and you will have better success.

    As far as url's being too long goes you are diluting the page to the point that the keyword focus is not apparent. Pick the main keyword for the page and include it in the url, title and H1 heading. Then organize the page using H2's, content, and links to include 1 or 2 more less important keywords. If you can't choose one keyword as the main one then you need two pages, one for each keyword.

    Ideal-Circuit-Tracer-Wire-Tracer
    So pick either circuit tracer or wire tracer (or multimeters or "wire testing equipment"....etc) and include that in the url, Title, H1. Too long headings, titles, and urls dilute any relevance you may intend to convey. Then include the other keyword in an H2 if it is related but a different product. In this case a circuit tracer is another way of finding a wire tracer so just weave that in the content under the existing H1.

    Your big problem is the duplicate content. Your mongo url's are getting indexed elsewhere...

    Good luck!
     
    Robert T, Jul 30, 2008 IP
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    Ya know I was worried about that as well. The issue there is on some items not only does the manufacteur recommend using their content from their site, but because of some legality issues with certain products I have to.

    If you look around on the web for some of the items I sell you will see the content is the same on all sites. Mainly the safety stuff. I think I will contact someone at each manufacteur to change it around for me. It is in their best interest as well for me to have unique content.

    thanks again

    JJ
     
    aikencolon, Jul 30, 2008 IP
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    moreover, you can build backlinks for each page separately using social bookmarking,
    this will further increase indexing.
     
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    Indexing isn't my problem I don't think. I honestly think I got penalized. Do a site:www.aikencolon.com. Then grab page description and put it back in to google. I should rank for that. Actually I should rank 1 for that, because it is my exact title of my page. Yet nothing comes up, except 5 pages out of 973 indexed.

    In my google webmaster tools it says indexed 401 pages out of 1021 of my sitemap. The site:www.aikencolon.com says 973 pages. Yet only 5 can be actually searched.

    JJ
     
    aikencolon, Jul 31, 2008 IP