Cheap SEO Services/KingofKings SEO Guaranteed Service(Reports/Evidence)($29 A Month)

Was the money sent to KingofKings via western union wired to Lebanon or Syria?

 

Crazy thread, but if you are naive enough to fall for a money back guarantee on something that is impossible to guarantee then you are ripe for the pick'in.

On another note, Cheap SEO Services is 100% on the hook for every penny of refunding these people because he is the one that stated his guarantee multiple times. It is irrelevant what he did with the money or if someone ripped him off. He is the one that made the guarantee, he is the one that should honour it.

SEO in general has gotten a bad name as of late because of rip-off artists but everyone looking for this valuable service should remember, you typically get what you pay for and if something sounds too good to be true, like: "I will get you top spots on Google for x amount of money or you get a full refund", it probably is!

 

It was definitely Syria. I remember seeing the amount converted to Syrian Pounds.

 

Unbelievable

 

I agree, a few of my SEO clients use DP and it was they who diverted me to this thread, not because they had been scammed, purely because the proposed methods outlined in this thread are contradictory to my own (and every other legitimate SEO out there).

I would normally refrain from passing judgement but the whole scenario sounds like a perfectly planned out scam.

You use your reputation to offer what appears to be a too good to be true service to entice people in.

You offer a full money back guarantee to customers. (This alone should have been enough to put people off. 4 - 8 Months of link building would cost similar to the prices outlined in the original post, if not more, no company is going to take a hit on it). You know yourself what SEO costs.

You scale the project over a maximum of 8 months knowing full well that you have at least 8 months of monthly fees coming in and 8 months of new customers before anyone is even entitled to complain and request a refund.

Just as the first customers are approaching the end of the project when a refund is imminent, you claim to "sell" your share of the business to your "partner" - a partner who your customers have had no financial dealings with.

Your partner then conveniently gets himself banned from DP and in doing so, puts himself out of contact with all customers.

You then use your partner as a scapegoat claiming that you have no idea who he is, what his methods are, that he was literally just telling you what to post and that you were literally a puppet in his operation.

You then play the sympathy card stating that you're broke, will need to find a day job etc. You also refund a couple of people from your own pocket so it looks like you're trying to resolve the situation. You said it yourself, you have nothing to gain, your reputation is ruined, I think this whole masquerade is designed to limit the action taken against you.

Again, I could be wrong and when people take action, if you're not found to have the funds in question and your story checks out, I will be the first to apologise.

The part of your story I am struggling to believe is why on earth you fell for what you claim to have? You have years of SEO experience and a genuinely good reputation in the field, yet you have supposedly let a third party come along claiming to have a somewhat unproven method at doing the job you have done for many years. You then proceed to believe in this method enough (admittedly knowing nothing about it) to offer the service through your company, guarantee a refund and then pass 95% of the funds paid onto an unknown quantity in Syria using an untraceable payment method? Did you not think that once you'd transferred $2K, $5K, $10K, $50K to this person - hold on a minute, what if he doesn't honor the refunds?

If the above is true, you don't deserve to be in business for being that gullible.

 

Of course you are entitled to your opinion. But that is all it is and nothing more. That's my opinion. All you have done is stated "some" things that have happened and then added "more" things to make it sound suspicious. You are not saying anything new here. It's all been said before, so why bother saying anything at all? You are not a client of this service. So, at best you are only guessing.

 

well Col i WAS a client of this service and you've yet to answer my question which i've quoted again below.

i'll ask you the question again: why would KofK set up a thread, not mention you one time in that thread, deal with everything in that thread himself and then have the money go through you?

 

Believe me Colin, no matter how I dress it up - it's still going to sound suspicious. I just simply stated the facts as I saw them. Admittedly, I have left out all the excuses, sob stories and pleas of ignorance - but they hold little weight anyway.

But, with that said, you're right, I'm not a client, purely an observer and yes, it is simply my opinion on the matter. I just feel sorry for the individuals who have been taken in by this scam and also feel sorry for you personally, for having the need to either scam these people or for being gullible enough to go about business with KoK in the manner which you did.

 

5 star response. Why the hell would you be dealing with such big monetary figures through Western Union with some random dude in the middle east and not suspect for even a bit that you're being used as a mule for a scam? It's common sense, and you're a smart guy Col...you wouldn't fall for that.

 

Easy question. To get more money in his pocket. You are forgetting he had to go through my Paypal account seeing he did/could not have one. He influenced me to start up my own thread so I could get more % of the amounts coming in. Of course, after some time, I looked at how many refunds were due for this thread and there none at the time. I saw it as an opportunity to bring some more income in. That was my big mistake.

The gullible point is more valid in this case. As I asked the question before "how many scammers have stayed around to face the fire?" I can tell you. "NONE". Why? Because they are scammers. They take the money and you never see them again. Why would I be any different if that was my intention the entire time? ANSWER: I am not the scammer!

See above.

 

Did this guy ever provide any proof that he could actually rank sites? I offer a money back guarantee for my SEO services, however I do not quote people trying to rank for a competitive term that it'll take less than a month... I'm realistic on the time frame. Also, I provide proof of rankings.

 

Facts are facts, you offered the money back guarantee.

 

Fact are facts. I have not got the money. kingofkings has.

 

Its doesn't matter who has YOUR money. You took money from your clients, don't be telling them to go off and chase someone else on the basis of YOUR dealings with them. Its completely illogical and wrong to do that. YOU sort out whatever dispute YOU have with King of Kings. The clients dispute is with YOU. Stop trying to pass blame/money/fault along the line.

Telling people to go off and chase someone else is demeaning and insulting. they entered a contract with you. What you did after that in your business dealings has nothing to do with them. You offered a money back guarntee. Now live up to it.

 

What you are saying is just like when it is time to pay the rent and I tell my landlord that I gambled away my money so if he wants it he should go talk to the casino?

Makes no sense at all.

I am surprised you have not been banned from these forums, because you admit you promised a money back guarantee and now you say too bad the money is gone. It is the same as admiting to fraud.

You keep saying you don't have any money but you just went traveling for a week....ummm, ok.

 

If I was banned then how could you and your friends accuse me of fraud? Vent your anger as much as you like. It does not change the very fact that I do not have your money and I don't see too many money trees growing in my backyard!

 

Wow, I didn't deal with this guy but this really gets to me. I've lost quite a bit of money before in a situation almost exactly like this: I paid person A for something, person A said they gave my money to person B who scammed them, ripped them off, whatever you wanna call it, and then person A told me that I should be going after person B!

Listen buddy, I don't know your situation, you may have a wife and kids you have to look after and that's totally understandable, but the simple fact is the people on this board dealt with YOU, not King of Kings. You know what that means, right? Yeah, YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE.

The sad thing is, even though people will be able to take you to court and win no problem, it's going to cost them even more money and more headaches to do so. Firmaterra hit the nail on the head; what you're trying to do is total B.S. and extremely insulting to everyone who dealt with you.

There may not be any money trees, but I bet that backyard is worth something. Think about it.

 

Actually somebody taking him to court may have to pay their legal team up front. But IMO costs would be awarded in court so in the end they'd make it all back.

 

Yeah I'm sorry, you're 100% correct and this is most likely what would end up happening.