Seventeen Serial Bomb Blasts In Ahmedabad India 28 Dead 100+ Injured

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  1. ThraXed

    ThraXed Peon

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    #41
    Are you just playing or taking us as fools? Myself, imad, and others have brought countless sources over time. How many will it take for you to accept it as fact?

    Bombs in Cafes: first used by Zionists in Palestine on March 17th, 1937 in Jaffa.

    Bombs on Buses: first used by Zionists in Palestine Aug. 20th-Sep. 26, 1937.

    Bombs in Market Places: first used by Zionists on July 6th, 1938 in Haifa.

    Bombing of Hotels: first used by Zionists on July 22nd, 1946 in Jerusalem.

    Bombing of Foreign Embassies: first used by Zionists on October 1st, 1946 in Rome (against the British).

    Mining of Ambulances: First used by Zionists on October 31st, 1946 in Petah Tikvah.

    Letter Bombs: first used by Zionists in June 1947 against British targets in UK.

    Also read more about it here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionist_political_violence also this http://www.jews-for-allah.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=3834
     
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  2. JeremiaSK8

    JeremiaSK8 Active Member

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    #42
    Thanks, I wanted to use similar sources ThraXed. Maybe I dig into some other sources too, to show them the proof how it all started by israeli people.

    PS: I'm not suggesting that all israeli people are terrorists, that would be as dumb as saying all arab people are terrorists.
     
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  3. wisdomtool

    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    #43
    I quote

    What you have listed down are incidents, but there is no indications that Israelis started them all.

    Source : http://www.towson.edu/polsci/ppp/sp97/terror/causes.html

     
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    #44
    Incidents? So if a Jew does it, it is an incident and if an Arab does it, it's terrorism?

    August 20, 1937 - June 29, 1939. During this period, the Zionists carried out a series of attacks against Arab buses, resulting in the death of 24 persons and wounding 25 others.

    http://guardian.150m.com/palestine/jewish-terrorism.htm

    Is this an incident, or terrorism?
     
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    ThraXed: Appearantly.
     
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    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    #46
    Please don't discriminate Arabs. Whether a Jew or Arab committed terrorist acts, it is known as terrorism, there should not be distinction between Jews or Arabs, terrorists are terrorists.

     
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  7. ThraXed

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    #47
    Well here is the source, that Israel started terrorism, i hope you can understand this as a fact now. http://guardian.150m.com/palestine/jewish-terrorism.htm

    So it is there fault there is no peace.


    And you were the one discriminating, you said they were just incidents, but you consider any attacks done by Arabs as terrorism. Try to see further than race, please.
     
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    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    #48
    What you have listed down are incidents, incidents of terrorism, but there is no indications that Israelis started modern terrorism. In fact the source I cited showed that Arabs due to losses on the military front started modern terrorism. The source you have cited is hosted on a free hosting written by someone who did not even put down his or her name. Anyone can go to 150m.com and sign up for a free hosting account and produce his source too.


     
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    #49
    So you are saying Arabs started terrorism in the region?
     
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    #50
    You can read the complete source here

    http://www.towson.edu/polsci/ppp/sp97/terror/index.html

    It is not hosted on a free web host btw.

    But FYI, I think both sides are equally liable. Newton's second law, For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction, it takes two sides.

     
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    #51
    It's nice that you think both sides are equally liable, but the question was are you saying Arabs started terrorism in the region?
     
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    #52
    You quoted a source on a free web host saying that Israelis started modern terrorism, I quoted a counter source from an educational web site showing that there are two sides to a coin.

    That does not mean I believe that Arabs started it, it is just to tell you that things can be easily interpreted according to the authors' views.

    As I said, and I repeat, both sides are equally accountable.

     
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    #54
    Read your source again, Wisdomtool. It does not show Arabs commiting terrorist attacks anywhere close to when the Zionists did in the early days, our sources are not conflicting.
     
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    #55
    I am from ahmedabad and just to tell my friends that "I am safe" :)
     
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    Good to hear meetbro. :) Do you live close to the place in Ahmedabad where the bombs exploded?
     
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    #57
    Wait, wasn't it the same Wikipedia that had a petitioned on it and was roundly condemned?

    Wikipedia gave a good description of Zionist political violence, but no where did it state that Israelis are the start of modern terrorism.

    I guess the Israelis better start a petition to have this article changed.


     
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    #58
    There are people who try to bend the truth and fight agains Wikipedia articles like that one.

    For me, this argument is over. No matter what sources I or ThraXed or anyone else shows, you'll say "hey there's no proof they started it".
     
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    #59
    I would like to know, what is your definition for modern terrorism, is it the one that use modern technology? or the one that happened after 1948, or is it terrorism when Arabs started doing terrorism? or else?
     
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    #60
    Your stance was that Israelis started modern terrorism and you did mentioned several incidents OF terrorism and also Wikipedia article. But nowhere did I see Wikipedia mentioning that Israelis started modern terrorism. You may have seen it and I might have missed it, that's why I am asking you to show me the statement from Wikipedia which you had cited as a source.

    No one is fighting Wikipedia, you don't see me stating a petition to ask them to remove all the ugly references of Zionist violence do you?

     
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