Get executed for what you say on your blog

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  1. #1
    More happy fun from the religion of peace:
    TEHERAN - Iran's parliament is set to debate a draft bill which could see the death penalty used for those deemed to promote corruption, prostitution and apostasy on the Internet, reports said on Wednesday.

    MPs on Wednesday voted to discuss as a priority the draft bill which seeks to "toughen punishment for harming mental security in society," the ISNA news agency said.

    The text lists a wide range of crimes such rape and armed robbery for which the death penalty is already applicable. The crime of apostasy (the act of leaving a religion, in this case Islam) is also already punishable by death.

    However, the draft bill also includes "establishing weblogs and sites promoting corruption, prostitution and apostasy", which is a new addition to crimes punishable by death.

    Those convicted of these crimes "should be punished as "mohareb' (enemy of God) and "corrupt on the earth'," the text says.

    Under Iranian law the standard punishments for these two crimes are "hanging, amputation of the right hand and then the left foot as well as exile."

    The bill -- which is yet to be debated by lawmakers -- also stipulates that the punishment handed out in these cases "cannot be commuted, suspended or changed".

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  2. bogart

    bogart Notable Member

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    #2
    Does that apply only to Iranians or to anybody on the web?
     
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  3. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #3
    Ask Salmon Rushdie:

    On February 14, 1989, a fatwā requiring Rushdie's execution was proclaimed on Radio Tehran by Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, the spiritual leader of Iran at the time, calling the book "blasphemous against Islam" (chapter IV of the book depicts the character of an Imam in exile who returns to incite revolt from the people of his country with no regard for their safety). A bounty was offered for Rushdie's death, and he was thus forced to live under police protection for years afterward. On March 7, 1989, the United Kingdom and Iran broke diplomatic relations over the Rushdie controversy.

    The publication of the book and the fatwā sparked violence around the world, with bookstores being firebombed. Muslim communities in several nations in the West held public rallies in which copies of the book were burned. Several people associated with translating or publishing the book were attacked, seriously injured, and even killed. Many more people died in riots in Third World countries.

    On September 24, 1998, as a precondition to the restoration of diplomatic relations with Britain, the Iranian government, then headed by Mohammad Khatami, gave a public commitment that it would "neither support nor hinder assassination operations on Rushdie."

    Hardliners in Iran have, however, continued to reaffirm the death sentence. In early 2005, Khomeini's fatwā was reaffirmed by Iran's spiritual leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, in a message to Muslim pilgrims making the annual pilgrimage to Mecca. Additionally, the Revolutionary Guards have declared that the death sentence on him is still valid. Iran has rejected requests to withdraw the fatwā on the basis that only the person who issued it may withdraw it, and the person who issued it is dead.​
     
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    homebizseo Peon

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    So you saying when we get an infraction it could lead to death or dismemberment?
     
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    i think porn is already punished by death in Iran, they executes porn stars
     
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  6. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #6
    It sort of makes DP infractions seem less serious. :D
     
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    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    Oh yes, usual diatribe from the Islamophobe. Things have not changed it seemed. Whatever Iran does, the Muslims have to follow apparently. Whatever Iranians want to do is their fking business, it has nothing to do with the 1.3 billion Muslims around the world. Perhaps we should go out and say that all Christians are terrorists because the lame duck you have for a President sent his troops and brought terrorism to Iraq and Afghanistan.
     
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    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    With your posts, you better specify which you want to go first, left arm, left foot or what :) ? I better refrain from posting in the P & R forum just in case. But I guess I would definitely love to be in exile.....


     
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  9. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    My blog definitely could not be published from within Dar al Islam.

    But strangely, Fort Liberty is very popular in Iran.
     
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    Lol,there goes the freedom of speech.
     
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    What religion does to the world...
     
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    Might well be popular. My advice, though, is neither visit or plan on moving there any time soon. ;)
     
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    Actually there are some bloggers out there who I'd like to do this to: "hanging, amputation of the right hand and then the left foot as well as exile" Preferably all at the same time.

    But seriously... this is sheer madness... disgusting...

    ... but our government in the UK is just as terrified of the internet as what these whack regimes are:

    They recently announced their intention to monitor and store all internet activity by everybody and for it to be monitored in real time...
     
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    #14
    You use the term islamophobe quote incorrectly. A phobia is an irrational fear. What is irrational about fearing a religion whose tenets deem most of what i do a crime; A crime punishable by death? To me that is a perfectly rational fear. What is irrational about fearing a religion who wanted to execute an author of a novel simply because it disagreed with his books content? What is irrational about fearing a religion which killed an artist because it didn't like his play?

    If there's one thing we all know about islam it's that it gives us countless reasons to fear it, Mostly because it's followers seem to be willing to kill people for the slightest reason.
     
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    Hmm, so when people say Islam is not spread by the sword (violence) how do they square that with the threat of a death sentence for leaving Islam?

    It is pretty sad that a religion has to sink to threats of violence to keep its members. One would think that the the virtues of the religion would be able to keep its members. I am trying to think of other things where people are forced to stay against their will. I guess the closest I can think of would be a prison. I guess if you are worried that your religion is not capable of defending itself on its merits, you have to try and squelch every opposing view.

    I can think of no bigger sign of weakness than having to threaten people to remain Muslims.
     
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    Iranian's know the country has some big problems. The people want change. They have 50 million people trying to live off of 3 million barrels per day of oil revenue. Per capita income in Iran is one of the lowest in the world.
     
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    To tell you the truth, I'm scared to post things on my blog related to religion and politics because of the extremists that might walk around here. It's so unfair that there's no freedom of speech anywhere.
     
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  18. Will.Spencer

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    In The Netherlands, the Muslims set a pretty serious example by murdering Theo van Gogh.

    Mohammed Bouyeri murdered Van Gogh in the early morning of Tuesday November 2, 2004, in Amsterdam, in front of the Amsterdam East borough office (stadsdeelkantoor) on the corner of the Linnaeusstraat and Tweede Oosterparkstraat, while he was bicycling to work. He shot him eight times with an HS 2000 handgun, and Van Gogh died on the spot. Bouyeri then cut Van Gogh's throat, nearly decapitating him, and stabbed him in the chest. Two knives were left implanted in his torso, one attaching a five-page note to his body. The note threatened Western governments, Jews and Ayaan Hirsi Ali (who went into hiding). The note also contained references to the ideologies of the Egyptian organization Takfir wal-Hijra.​

    BTW, I lived in Helmond and Eindhoven in 1998 and 1999. :)

    Of course in Iran and much of the Islamic world, that murder would be legal. :(
     
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    webwork Banned

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    There are no homosexuals in Iran too. ;)

    Seriously that sounds like a harsh reigme there.

    But how Iran runs their government doesn't any difference to me, especially about a bill that hasn't even been considered by lawmakers yet.

    I'm American.

    Source please?

    Because you're fearing the worlds largest relgion - billions of people, for the actions of one extremist.

    Under this pretext, you should also be afraid of black people as well.

    Statistically they contribute mostly to America's violence, yet they are the minority.

    Are you also afraid of black people?
     
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    So then by that logic you don't care how Israel runs its government, but you rant about that all the time. Hypocrite.
     
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