Directory reviews at Digital Pointless

Discussion in 'Directories' started by SpiritWind, Jul 22, 2008.

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  1. #1
    Tiz about time people stopped treadin on eggshells at this and other forums on directories so I plan on giving reviews on this section of DP and about the directory owners and posters on here. I won't be cutting corners neither will I be afraid to post what I think, but I won't be posting anything that ain't plain and simple true and can't be backed up.

    Now there's two ways to do this, that's working with me or working against me, you want a genuine review then ask, you wanna cry AFTER the event then hard lines.

    It ain't likely that I'll get to post the reviews on here as maybe at times I ain't gonna like lots of directories and I will be saying so. On that note I'll be posting on the new blog hxxp://www.digitalpointless.com where most will know ain't a place to hold back. I don't plan on being selective or one sided, I don't give a squat who you are, what script code you use, how many green reps you have, nothing.

    I've pretty much read all that needs to be read on this area and cutting through the crap it ain't gonna take long to get to the decent directories if there are any and I'll say so. Good thing is my reviews will be blasted onto every article site I can get them on so be nice to me, I might just do you all a favour.

    Here's what I want from you guys...

    Do I add my own rating to each article, say 1 for crap, 5-8 for going places or has genuine potential, up to 10 for the best of the best.

    You coming along for the ride, oh and watch the blog carefully, you never know what diamonds I'm gonna come up with. ;)
     
    SpiritWind, Jul 22, 2008 IP
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    #2
    I like your 'no holds barred' style, but others on here will not - trust me I know!

    I like the idea of directory reviews, but to do this properly or be believed on here needs proof or a ton of posts that display special knowledge beyond the normal, basic directory speak that goes on. So my question is - What qualifies you for this?

    So are you claiming expertise based on the running of a blog - because that's not the same as owning a directory, and that's no proof that you know what you're talking about.
     
    Event_King, Jul 22, 2008 IP
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    spyrit Well-Known Member

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    you have a point there, expecially because he has a huge number of posts...namely 1. Why are you the expert in this, and why should anyone listen to you?
     
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  4. mikey1090

    mikey1090 Moderator Staff

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    I'd give it a lengthy review - covering all areas - mostly content and other important aspects such as quality of listings, user experience.

    Does the directory have empty categories?
    Have they a unique web design that actually works and follows good standards?
    Do they approve every link that gets added/paid for?
    Do they edit titles, re-categorise and edit descriptions?
    Do they actually add links themselves to fill the directory or just hope that a few paid submissions will do?
    Is it just a directory script or have they expanded to other areas - reviews, news, blogs etc?

    Some things you can look out for. Then I'd sum it all up into a digitalpointless rank out of 10 :)
     
    mikey1090, Jul 22, 2008 IP
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    sabian1982 Notable Member

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    As his blog states - he was banned; boohoo lol

    Have DP tried sueing you yet for unauthorised use of their business name and branding?
     
    sabian1982, Jul 22, 2008 IP
  6. mikey1090

    mikey1090 Moderator Staff

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    #6
    Its DigitalPointless, not DigitalPoint. Totally different, so can't be sued. Even if he did use the same, you're just assuming that DP is trademarked....:)
     
    mikey1090, Jul 22, 2008 IP
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    spyrit Well-Known Member

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    well the design has something familliar about it :D
     
    spyrit, Jul 22, 2008 IP
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    Randy - Black Hat forum, interesting.

    But I like your attitude to be honest.
     
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  9. SpiritWind

    SpiritWind Banned

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    #9
    Getting your facts right would be a good start, I don't own that site I am a non paid volunteer who came here under my own steam, get used to facts dude your going to see a lot of them.

    Also keep in topic unless any of you are qualified atourneys which I doubt it, I know I'm not but I know a dude or two that are.

    To Syrit; 1 post a 1000,000 posts, would not make me less of an expert than you, what's your level of knowledge? What's your directory/s, could be using you as starter you never know, I'll show you my levels of skillset or even lack of them, what they will contain though is total honesty. ;)

    Oh, to the dude who just poste this with that BS red rep...

    I ain't crying dude but a few people on here just might be by the time I'm done with them.
     
    SpiritWind, Jul 22, 2008 IP
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    spyrit Well-Known Member

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    #10

    man, what can I say, good luck with that, all i meant was that people will probably not take you seriously or will not listen to you. But, what the heck everybody starts from somewhere ...we'll see in the future how this develops.

    although, i do have a question, why did you feel the need to post at DP , you could have just started your work and people would have picked it up eventually if it's good.
     
    spyrit, Jul 22, 2008 IP
  11. Ben-AceofTech

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    I would agree with all of your on your points being, why should we listen to you, how do we know, etc. But I have another thought.

    You can't really review a website with numbers. A website is almost like a nice car, you can't rate it with numbers, you can only ask question like "How fast does it go?" "Are those chrome rims?" "Is that a leather interior?" Which translates to instead of rating a directory, by asking thins like "Is the content displayed in a new, original way?" "Is the content always fresh?" "Is the owner striving to make his/her directory better?" By asking this you can with either say yes, its a good site, or no, its a dump site meant to scam users for ad clicks. You can't "rank" a site.
     
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  12. SpiritWind

    SpiritWind Banned

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    In short, I wanted to and I like giving people an advanced warning that a storm is coming, you won't catch me flaming on here, you won't catch me neg repping, in fact I think that's being blogged about as we speak, this place is so predictable, I'm sitepoint user by rule for when I first read about this place it was full of crap with every bitch and their dog arguing about scripts and who votes who the best, who negs who and all that crap, the post on bullying is hitting the target man and its my job to see if hxxp://www.digitalpointless.com/2008/07/16/is-dp-full-of-shit/ really is true or not, if it aint I'll speak up for this forum if it is true I'll say so.
     
    SpiritWind, Jul 22, 2008 IP
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    Much appreciated Spyrit, I'd guess he's not an expert, but he probably has a decent basic knowledge as he needs to have - owning a blog and about to write about directories.
     
    Event_King, Jul 22, 2008 IP
  14. mikey1090

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    Oh yeah....that free vbulletin template which has been taken and colored green - just like DP did....

    DigitalPointless has so far been a laugh for me. Well written and some great points made. I have had it bookmarked since the first post emerged. :) Keep it up:D
     
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    Well said Mikey and true. But I understand why sabian said it.
     
    Event_King, Jul 22, 2008 IP
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    Yer but it is a blatent logo copy, its not even as though they've changed the colour or anything... technically DP wouldnt need to be trade marked for them to sue the site or at the very least get it taken down.

    Edit: Plus don't forget that the sole purpose of DP isnt a forum (although it often seems that way) - DP is a business selling products and services, hence Digital Point is as much a business name as anything else!
     
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    I am no lawyer, but I am sure if DP were to DMCA your host they would take down the web site based on the logo because that looks like infringement to me. I shall ask our resident JamieG to pop along and clarify, because he is a lawyer.

    Edit: Perhaps I won't he's banned.

    As for your plans to create a "storm", what is it your hoping to achieve? To name and shame all the crap directories? Or pick out the Gems?

    As for whether you qualify to write reviews, I dont think anyone needs to be qualified to do such a task, the quality shall be determined in the review itself so therefore judgement should be reserved until a review has been posted.

    Ah LoL, I just seen Jaboora is somehow involved in this web site, guess that puts me in the firing line :D Sorry but all credibility went downhill after I saw that.
     
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    Okay, I know a bit about this trademark stuff, as I'm a trademarked company myself so here goes:

    A trademark can be applied to words, logos, or three dimensional shapes that distinguish a particular business - represented Graphically.

    There is something called 'Design Right', and it's automatic, and doesn't need registration to provide protection. Design Right applies to original designs and 2 dimensional shapes aren't covered by this but will qualify for copyright protection.

    So the who owns the Logo design? DP or Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

    Thing is his site name is Digital Pointless and not Digitalpoint, so he will probably have no problems getting a TM, and if he's got a trademark for that name, nobody can do anything about it. It's a new site, he probably won't bother trademarking a blog anyhow, but he might do - you never know......

    He could just put TM after it, and that is enough from a legal sense, but it's not official, because it wouldn't necessarily be in the trademark register. Official trademarks all consist of an R with a circle around it - but anyone can put the letters TM and be done with it - but it's not great protection, only the R symbol is 100% legal (and lasts for 10 years).
     
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    spyrit Well-Known Member

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    this is some interesting piece of information...ok, you've convinced me, rep added :) (edit: oh....apparently already added ) good info anyway.
     
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    Sabian - If DigitalPoint trademarked the words 'DigitalPoint', then they have a case, same as if they TM the logo shape.

    If not, they don't have anything. Looking at the DP logo right now, it has no TM or R after it, so it doesn't appear to be trademarked, although I could be wrong.

    But we don't know.
     
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