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Grand Jury Clears Texan in the Killing of 2 Burglars

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by GRIM, Jun 30, 2008.

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  1. homebizseo

    homebizseo Peon

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    #361

    About the law maker.
    I think that was said before in the thread. Old stuff
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #362
    Ahh so facts that destroy your arguments are 'old stuff'

    Interesting.

    You keep saying the same thing over and over and nothing more 'the grand jury has spoken' and that's about it. Nothing substantial other than that.
     
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    #363
    None of anything said destroyed my arguments. Just old nonsense being used again.
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #364
    You had an argument? Other than 'THE GRAND JURY HAS SPOKEN'

    Again you know more about a subject than the experts, in this case the man who wrote the law? Astonishing!

    You do realize a grand jury can rule not to prosecute for multiple reasons not simply because something was lawful, you also do realize a grand jury does not decide the legality of a law or set it in stone do you not in such an instance?

    Yet you are arguing that it has.
     
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    #365
    The citizens of Texas are happy with the ruling in a 2 to 1 favor.
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    Ohyeah from your one little online poll that is in no way scientific, those polls can not be taken with more than a grain of salt.

    Polls also do not determine laws, so yet again no real argument?
     
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    #367
    I not the one argueing over an old thread.
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #368
    You aren't?

    Surely appears you are still arguing, and putting out blatantly false information.
     
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    #369
    I guess if you think you get the last word, you win. You are incorrect. The law allows people to protect thier property and their neighbor's property. Get your facts straight. If you are going to dispute this, you better quote the legislation.

    I guess you are right in that we only have that same old, worn out line that the Grand Jury found that Joe Horn did not break the law. Sorry, that is a fact and you can't change it. If you want to argue this, good luck. Get over it.

    I'm not even sure what point you are trying to make. Sounds like you just need someone to argue with.
     
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    #370
    I agree. That's a great idea, to quote the legislation. Which is why I did just this, about a half month ago, to include a link to the entire text of the legislation - but strangely, the idea wasn't dealt with then, either.

    Text of SB 378. (warning PDF).

    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=8397998&postcount=296

    From what I can gather, jazz, you haven't read the law itself, although you are requesting others to do something that has already been done.
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    I have listed links to the law in this very thread, read it and read the position on the author of the law.

    :rolleyes:

    NP, just remember 'The Grand Jury Has Spoken' that's about all they have for an argument.
     
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    #372
    Sorry, missed your links as well, Grim.

    Yep, from my read of the law, nothing this guy did fits within it. Personally, I would feel less secure, not more secure, living in an environment where this kind of lawless vigilantism is given a green light. As I said, I've actually broken into my own home, in L.A., by accident - glass shattering, etc., all witnessed by a neighbor (who didn't know me, or know I lived in the apartment, I would guess). Glad I'm still writing this now.
     
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    My speak of listing the links and the :rolleyes: was not directed at you ;)

    2 links however discussing it and the author of the legislation 'one would think the person who wrote the legislation would know what it's about more than anyone'

    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=8368255&postcount=140
    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=8396270&postcount=286

    As you stated breaking into your own house. I'm sure if a neighbor came and confronted you on it you'd also wait for the police to get there to get the situation sorted. Granted the 2 in question appear not to have waited, they however also were not under any circumstances being a threat, plus Horn stated over and over before he went out there he was going to kill them.
     
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    I know, bro - more an admission, as I hate posting duplicate info.
     
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    I might have posted it after you :eek:
     
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    #376
    No, I claim the right to being a moron.:D
     
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    #377
    Well i live in Houston where it happened and by Texas law what he did was legal. To boot if it would have been at night there would be NO GRAND JURY AT ALL since it is legal to shoot anyone on your property at night.

    The man caught 2 people stealing from his neighbors house and was protecting the property rights of them and in doing so rid the world of 2 burglars.

    I am amazed at how people are outraged over this. 2 thieves are caught and the world is mad at the man who caught them. If the worthless police would have responded faster then they would have been the ones to shoot them and not the neighbor who was on the ball and was doing a service for his community. The man is a hero and should be praised!!
     
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    He is being praised by most.
     
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    Interesting, it must be hard to find pizza delivery guys. They must really double check that address before getting out of the car.

    Something tells me you don't quite have the law right. I would love to read it if you have a cite.
     
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    I'd be willing to bet he doesn't.

    Not to forget yet again the AUTHOR of the law says it was not meant for this circumstance, yet others know more than the author of the law does ;)

    I can see it now, Pizza Delivery school is harder to pass than military training, plus you have to bring the same or more deadly tools of the trade in order to do the job.

    How about the case of kids crossing property at night to take a short cut, memory serves me an old guy blasted one a few years ago with a shot gun. Yes what a great law that would be, anyone on your property at night is fair game, no matter the circumstances.

    http://oncrime.blogspot.com/2006/03/man-kills-boy-for-walking-on-lawn.html
     
    GRIM, Jul 21, 2008 IP
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