need advice on how to approach a problem.. i am confused

Discussion in 'General Business' started by seokool, Jul 21, 2008.

  1. #1
    hi friends
    basically i am a traffic seller

    a guy from this forum purchased 30k of us traffic from me @ 195$ through paypal
    he paid me instantly and i started delivering the traffic to his site right away
    after i delivered some 10-12k of traffic he put the transaction on hold and i am unable to do even other transactions
    now my paypal account is on hold and i am unable to do my business
    we even had a chat on icq about the deal .... but now he does not respond
    what shod i do now? :confused:
     
    seokool, Jul 21, 2008 IP
  2. BusinessCoach

    BusinessCoach Well-Known Member

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    #2
    u got taken advantage of

    you need to do whatever paypal tells you to do to get your account unfrozen

    unfortunately there are a lot of fraudsters out there
     
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  3. seokool

    seokool Peon

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    even paypal is not giving me much options

    all i can see in paypal is
    [​IMG]

    when i try to select the second option
    paypal is asking me to enter the tracking code of the shipping...but this is a service
     
    seokool, Jul 21, 2008 IP
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    BusinessCoach Well-Known Member

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    just type service into the tracking info and in the shipper info

    in the comments be sure to write it was a service

    paypal will end up deciding in your favor...unless they paid with credit card, then they can reverse the charges...and then you will be out the money.
     
    BusinessCoach, Jul 21, 2008 IP
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  5. seokool

    seokool Peon

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    yes i tried out this option

    paypal tells me that they will contact me later

    now i am unable to do any transactions

    damn this guy and paypal is spoiling my biz
     
    seokool, Jul 21, 2008 IP
  6. kiteguy123

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    well, if you can't physically prove that you gave him the services, and you're losing money because of the dispute, then youre best off, imo, to refund him the money and move on. May seem hard to take in that youve lost that much, but if other customers can't pay, then think how much you could potentially lose, not only money wise, but your rep, too.. :(
     
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  7. FatherChristmas

    FatherChristmas Peon

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    #7
    If I were you be very wary of getting into the SEO / Traffic Hits business, I got ripped off $5000 USD a few years ago.

    People would order Traffic, I would deliver after payment received via Paypal.com ... Traffic Delivered and then paypal would do a chargeback, I lost my money, they got their traffic for free and their money back!

    Please read this thread about it:

    http://www.dnforum.com/post8-post-313580.html
     
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  8. kiteguy123

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  9. seokool

    seokool Peon

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    yes its too bad

    5000$ is no small money
     
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  10. tripad

    tripad Peon

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    #10
    Well one suggestion : Call paypal .. and ask them if CHAT/ PM logs will be prove your point ! ...

    another thingy : PLEASE MENTION THE USERNAME OF THE GUY!
     
    tripad, Jul 21, 2008 IP
  11. SilkySmooth

    SilkySmooth Well-Known Member

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    Setup a Moneybookers or e-gold account, much more difficult for you to get ripped of using these services. PayPal are too much in favor of the buyer.
     
    SilkySmooth, Jul 21, 2008 IP
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    #12
    Moneybookers or egold wouldn't be a solution since the majority of people are using Paypal as payment option.

    I would suggest plimus as merchant. They are making sure that the buyer got the service and accept paypal payments. No dispute, no charge back issues
     
    mhmtozek, Jul 21, 2008 IP
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    xmartel Active Member

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    #13
    There's a lot of people doing that these days, good luck with sorting it out.
     
    xmartel, Jul 21, 2008 IP
  14. seokool

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    one more guys puts a transaction on hold after i sent him all the traffic
    my balance is now -270$
    these guys really sucks

    and now its time to reveal their user id's

    the first guy who ripped me 195$ is rbccsctt9 join date- Jul 13th 2008, itrader-0
    the second person is ssuazo5 whos trying to rip me 95$ join date-Jul 17th 2008 , itrader-0
     
    seokool, Jul 22, 2008 IP
  15. mhmtozek

    mhmtozek Peon

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    #15
    I have strong suspicious that the both nicknames are belong to one person.

    Well, I would never suggest you to do business with high sum for people who has 0 itrader and new member to DP forums.

    He is probably in forums with some other username now. Can you also publish their website name since this thread will be indexed by google and their site will be on the first page when its being searched.
     
    mhmtozek, Jul 22, 2008 IP
  16. seokool

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    its a good idea to publish the links here
    but they have give me the affiliate links
    these are very intelligent fraudsters
    the link rbccsctt9 gave me is http://mpegxxxvideos.com/?id=3186
    the link ssuazo5 gave me is http://porntubev20.com/pornstars/index.php?id=114

    they might have made some conversions from my traffic
    and now they try to s**t on my face
    this is too bad
     
    seokool, Jul 22, 2008 IP
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    well as much marketing as i do for other businesses, this is EXACTLY one of the MANY reasons I don't deal in the adult industry

    it brings people from the dregs of life...both the vendors and customers
     
    BusinessCoach, Jul 22, 2008 IP
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    As I said, get out while you can .. also way too much competition.
     
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  19. JoseArmando

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    Lol I've had the same thing happen to me yesterday...

    The buyer submitted "unauthorized transaction".

    The transaction is on hold even though I've delivered my ebook.

    I've submitted emails and all the information I could gather to them and I hope they'll be able to resolve the issue in my favour.

    Good luck to you too
     
    JoseArmando, Jul 22, 2008 IP
  20. seokool

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    you got cheated my the same user??
     
    seokool, Jul 22, 2008 IP