Gun Control Works? Britain grapples with surge of knife attacks

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    Too many people thing that they will be safe if they take guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens. In Britian, a country with strict gun control laws, there is a surge of fatal knife attacks, which analysts say reflects a growing sense of insecurity on the country's streets.

    The most recent crime statistics showed there were 22,151 recorded offences involving knives last year. The highest number -- 7,409 -- was in London.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080720/wl_afp/britaincrimeyouth;_ylt=Ar_rceAGMsKZw5EUDhBxyARvaA8F
     
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  2. homebizseo

    homebizseo Peon

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    Do not forget about the others methods folks that do not have access to guns commit murder.
     
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    bogart Notable Member

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    You go that right. They get medieval on you over there.
     
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    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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    Looks like Britain is doing bloody well.
     
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    To look on the bright side, a knife stab is no matter what better than a gun shot.

     
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    Death by knife, gun, car, or by any means the results are the same.
     
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    The two things are unrelated.
     
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    What two things are not related?
     
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    I don't see what the connection is between gun control and knife crime.

    Knife crime isn't getting worse in Britain - although the age profile of victims is getting lower.

    It's the current media craze at the moment and as we move into the silly news season of August it will only get worse.
     
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    Gun control and knife crime.
     
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    Knife crimes would go down in Great Britian if the Gun Laws were the Same as in the United States.
     
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    No they wouldn't. a correlation doesn't indicate causation.
     
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    Why would they use a knife when they could use a gun?
     
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    because it's easier to obtain and easier to conceal.
     
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    I agree - there's absolutely no connection between weapons laws and violence rates. Vermont has 10 times as many guns as Scotland and a tenth of the violent death. Washington D.C. has ten times more violent death than Scotland and strict gun laws.

    If you tried to plot weapons laws against violent death rates, you'd have a completely random chart that doesn't show the first bit of order. Income and education distribution - even temperature correlates with violence rates better than weapons laws.

    Of course, this just means you can't end violence by banning weapons - and you can't end violence by making weapons more easily available, either.
     
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    Or, alternatively, gun crimes would go up if Britain had the same gun laws as the US...
     
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    Yes they would but the mayhem of murder would stay the same.
     
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