What If The Indians Had Won The Fight For America?

The Aztecs were not in what is now the USA. They were in central Mexico. Yeah, they were more advanced than Native Americans of the time, but where are they today? The Aztecs were a brutal society. In many ways, they were much more brutal than their counterparts in the North.

For the rest of your statement, you must have read the version of Native American history that was written by the same guy who wrote Bambi. No one said they were not capable of advancement. The fact is that they had not advanced in thousands of years, other than modernizing their mode of transportation with stolen horses.

A statement that a guy made to me over 25 years ago pretty much sums up Native American motivation for advancement. The guy was trying to recruit me to help him run a Native American silver jewelry business in New Mexico. He would buy jewelry from tribal sources in New Mexico and sell the jewelry in the northern states. He told me that there something very important that I needed to know about the cultural differences among the people I would have to work with.

1. The white man expects everything to get done yesterday.
2. The Mexican man plans to get everything done mañana (tomorrow).
3. With the red man, everything is seasonal.

There is no racist intent in his statement. It just reflects the difference in the way that people advance and get things done. He was trying to help me avoid the frustration of dealing with people that have no sense of urgency to get anything done.

 

The Aztec civilization was not that advanced. Their civilization was approx. 100 years old. Most of their knowledge was in irrigation and engineering. Other civilizations like the mayans, toltecs and incas were far more advanced. In the US the Indians in the Missisipi delta were advanced but their civilizations were wiped out by the Spanish during the 1500s.

The Northern Indians inhabiting the East Coast, Midwest and Great Lakes regions were very backward. A believe this may have had something to do with the 'little ice age' that lasted from 1300 to the late 1800s. Frosts in the summertime were not uncommon. In fact during the 1850s there was a mass migration of Americans from New England to Oregon due to the 'year without a summer' The Indians mainly grew crops like corn and sqaush that are very frost intolerant. They had no domesticated animals except for dogs. Rather the Indians relied on vast hunting grounds to haverst wild game. Tribes like the Iroqouis of New York only numbered 28,000 at their height and at the time of the Ameican revolution only numbered 16,000. But they inhabited approx. 50% of the State of New York which is 47,000 sq miles or so.

 

That sounds like Al Gore's earth-friendly human-unfriendly dream for America's future!

 

I wanted to speak on the ice age...When I was an undergrad in 1988 I took a marine biology class and my professor was an environmental green peace freak. She talked about global warming, but unlike AL Gore she stated that “the world was not out of the Ice Age yet" she stated that the glaciers were melting and had been melting since the Ice Age and until they were gone we were still in the Ice Age. She of course taught before the catch phrase “Global Warming." She went in debt about the glaciers, currents, atmosphere and the cause and effect of each on temperature and climate. I have spoken to her since and she still states that the Global warming is natural due to Earth still being in the Ice Age.


Side note: I believe the environment needs protecting but I am not sure I believe anything stated about “Global Warming”.

 

Adirondack Park has six million acres and more than half a million acres of virgin forest. New York State has the most virgin forest in the northeast and even a couple of hours away from New York City you will find virgin forest.

The Iroquois confederacy consisted of five tribes, the Mohawks, the Oneidas, the Onondagas, the Cayugas, and the Senecas. The Tuscaroras became the sixth tribe 1722.

The Erie Indians living along the eastern shores of Lake Erie in New York and Pennsylvania were related to the Iroquois. The Iroquois Confederacy considered them rivals and wiped out the entire tribe.

By 1650, the Iroquois conquered Ohio and drove out the indians living there. The wars were known as the Beaver Wars because the Iroquois took more land for hunting deer and trapping beaver.

 

Dead humans == happy environmentalists.

 

Yay more fertilizer!

 

It was this warm back in the middle ages. Up until the 1300's they were growing grapes and making wine on southern England. Today wine is again being made in the soutern England and as far north as Denmark.

I recall back in December 1983 I was in New York State and I cold front hit. The temperature during the day was -10 to -15 F and at night it was -40 F.

The warming started around 1989. I remember roses blooming in December in Northern New Jersey. There is definetely global warming going on. But the question is on how much of it is man made.