The State of Israel Has Strong Roots in Terrorism

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  1. GRIM

    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #21
    LOL


    That made me actually laugh my fng ass off! Still chuckling!
     
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    Danielregwan Well-Known Member

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    #22
    god that's painful I know the feeling well :eek:
     
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  3. webwork

    webwork Banned

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    #23
    What would be the difference between them and terrorists in Gaza?
     
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    wmghori Well-Known Member

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    #24
    difference would be terrorists in Gaza haven't won yet. If and When they win their status will change from terrorist to freedom fighters. Till then they have to wear the label of terrorists.
     
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  5. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #25
    Men like Samir Kuntar will never be viewed by the world as Freedom Fighters. Men who killed Olympic athletes will never be Freedom Fighters. They will always just be murders and terrorists.

    Perhaps one day, there will be Palestinian leaders who are more interested in advancing the cause of the Palestinian people rather than trying to kill random Jews and Israelis.
     
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    #26
    It's a nice thought, but take a look at history's role models.
     
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  7. imad

    imad Peon

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    #27
    not sure which is more correct to say, that Israel has its foundations in terrorism, or that terrorism has its foundations in Israel.. whatever.. the list is incomplete, those are only 3 terrorists who later became Israeli prime minister, I will be adding to the list, starting with Ehud Barak:


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    He was described as a war hero in both, Israel, and in USA when he visited it, and the one who can bring peace to the Middle East, yet few in USA know that he is an assassin, women and children murderer who described the killing of 7 years old girl as "necessary"

    this was not the only assassinating mission Barak did, his bloody history made him admired by the Israeli voters and he later became the prime minister of this illegal entity.

    source
     
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    earthfaze Peon

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    #28
    'The murder of any child is reprehensible, but your quoted sources implication that Kamal was just an innocent writer has been debated. To imply it was a thrillkill mission just doesn't ring true to me at all. Not to mention your source was a white seperatist, ya know neo-nazi.


    "Pierce believed in a hierarchical society governed by what he saw as the essential principles of nature, including the survival of the fittest. In his social schema, the best-adapted genetic stock, which he believed to be the white race, should remain separated from other races; and within an all-white society, the most fit individuals should lead the rest. He thought that extensive programs of "racial cleansing" (mass expulsion) and of eugenics, both in Europe and in the U.S., would be necessary to achieve this socio-political program." from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Luther_Pierce#Published_works

    Unless you are a cracker-white neo-nazi I have trouble believing you would consider Pierce a credible source.
     
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  9. imad

    imad Peon

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    #29
    As far as I'm concerned, all the Israelis can walk and have no fuel for their cars, because they have a murderous terrorist regime that doesn't allow people in Lebanon, Gaza and the West Bank, to live in peace ... Arabs are trying to attack only Israeli terrorists, but they also show the Israeli population that it cannot shed itself of responsibility for the situation. Arabs won't allow the Israelis to fire on them and destroy life in Gaza, while in Tel Aviv life is going on as usual.
     
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  10. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #30

    Classic:

    September 11, 1933 – July 23, 2002) was the leader of the white separatist National Alliance organization, and a principal ideologue of the white nationalist movement. First educated as a physicist, he later worked with George Lincoln Rockwell, the founder of the American Nazi Party. He achieved notoriety as the author of a novel, The Turner Diaries (1978), written under the pseudonym Andrew Macdonald. He founded a religion he called Cosmotheism, which was an admixture of panentheism, White Nationalism and separatist world-views.


    Nice source, but not in the least surprising for someone who thinks like he does. That you would post that source as something to validate your position just shows that you are totally oblivious to the moral abyss you have fallen into.
     
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  11. Idiot Inside

    Idiot Inside Well-Known Member

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    #31
    that is the point. World need to re-define terrorism and freedom fight.

    Based on that, what would you call Indians (fought for freedom of Brits), Iraqis, Afghans, Palestinians, Kashmiris etc.? Freedom fighters or terrorists?
     
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  12. GRIM

    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #32
    Every single side who is against another civilian type of force is going to use the term terrorist. This does not make all civilian types of forces terrorists, nor does it make them non terrorists. Looking at their actual actions, how they conducted themselves from a non biased perspective is needed.

    It would depend on how they conducted themselves............
     
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    DomainMagnate Illustrious Member

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    #33
    That massacre was done by Muslims against the Christians in Lebanon.
    Sharon is in a coma since Jan 2006 after he had a stroke
     
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  14. imad

    imad Peon

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    #34
    you have problem with the source, you might have a point here, which is, if somebody gave you a drink in an unlabeled bottle you will say yuck, but if that same drink was put in a labeled branded bottle you will say yummy, even though the contents are the same,

    I challenge you, if any of the quotes I took from his article is wrong or exaggerated or fake, I quoted the info about Barak's mission, but I again challenge you if any of the three quotes I have above is wrong, or if Barak did not say that really, or did not kill 7 years old girl,

    so the source originally is Barak himself when he admitted it, and he tried even to justify it by saying it was necessary, check your newspapers archive, or the Israeli newspapers archive which both have a strong interest in burying it deep, because it shows the real nature of these child-murderers and those who support them.

    in case you think he got better now after almost 30 years of his cold blood crimes, that war criminal is also ok with collective punishment of civilians, I used his own words, when he said:

     
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  15. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #35
    I don't have the time or inclination to research what some neo nazi writes.

    I can say this. If Barak killed a child, for no reason, I would unequivocally condemn him without reservation. If you want me to do so, I am happy to read about your claim from some reputable sites.

    I hold no water for Israel or Jews. I have no problem condemning their bad acts. I have done so before and expect I will do so in the future. What I will not do is give you and your neo nazi cite the benefit of the doubt, especially with your history of posting half-truths and outright lies.
     
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  16. imad

    imad Peon

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    #36
    well, yes, Barak killed a child for no reason and he admitted it, and said it was necessary. if you think this is half truth, go check and bring the whole truth and post it, isn't this why we have discussions here?

    because if somebody posted half truth, or fake info, there will be others who will correct it,

    you are broke again, I m sure if you have more to add about this crime which Barak did that tells it was not true, you will rush and post it, but you know that I do not post something, before I make sure its 100% true, so you do not want to check, cos you can't handle truth,

    from reading your post you seem that you never even heard about this crime Barak did, and now you are not interested in checking, why, could it be cos the victim is Arabian? you say because you have no time, sorry, you post daily, I m sure you will have time to check if you are interested in knowing full truth, or does that mean its not important for you?
     
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  17. imad

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    #37
    though, I do not like to use wikipedia as a source, but it can be good to give you a basic idea about the issue, because I see that you do not have any idea about what you are talking about..

    Sabra and Shatilla
     
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  18. browntwn

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    #38
    No, it is not important to me to try and prove myself wrong. As I said, I am happy to read from sites that are not neo nazi. Seems pretty reasonable to me.

    Why did Barak say it was necessary? Perhaps he is correct. I do not think the death of a child in itself makes it wrong, it is the intention that would make it wrong. If he killed a child and it was not his intention or was a mistake then I might not condemn him. If he went into the child's bedroom and shot her for no reason then I have no problem condemning him as I do Samir Kuntar.
     
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    #39
    The Journey to Ignorance
    Starring: Browntwn

    Scene 1....

     
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    #40
    It's incredible that there's people who don't know about massacre in Sabra and Shatilla! :eek:
    Are you serious? Where do you live? In lalaland? :eek:
     
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