IDF fires into crowd of 3,000 Hamas protesters at Gaza border

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  1. pizzaman

    pizzaman Active Member

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    #41
    the armed fighting of palestanians is not working. a few rockets landing in the middle of nowhere is not a good strategy and is not effective. a gandi like approach over a period of time might work better. It will be dangerous and slow but i do not see a better way.
     
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  2. debunked

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    #42
    That would be the least dangerous method. But that "oh duh" moment will never come.
     
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  3. pizzaman

    pizzaman Active Member

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    #43
    never say never :p
    it would be the best pr move they can make also. peaceful resistance is very popular
     
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    debunked Prominent Member

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    #44
    You would have to understand one core belief of a religion to see how that would be a pipe dream.
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    #45
    You look at this situation very one sided. There is no good guy at all Have you seen what bishop tutu has said about condition in gaza recently. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7425082.stm
     
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  6. iggysick

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    #46
    I guess shooting on unarmed protesters are one of ways for Israel to avoid "collateral damage and side effects and bad PR". :rolleyes:

     
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  7. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #47
    That is precisely why Israel managed not to kill anyone. Do you honestly think they tried to kill someone, fired on a crowd of 3,000, and missed? Of course not - they were not trying to kill anyone. Thanks for proving the point that Israel is not just indiscriminately killing people. They are actively avoiding it, while still trying to protect their border and their citizens.
     
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    #48
    Yeah, when you want to avoid killing people you shot into unarmed crowd of 3,000. That sound logic, isn't it. :)
     
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    #49
    and again, how many died or where shot?

    Oh, and please try not to use any Pallywood videos to prove things, we already know what that would mean.
     
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    #50
    Sure, when you shot on unarmed crowd of 3,000 people and don't kill anyone it makes it ok. :)
    Where the hell people like you coming from?!? Since when is firing into unarmed crowd acceptable as long as none gets killed?!? Seriously, you are blinded with your hate.

    Yeah mr judge, I've fired on that debunked dude but I didn't kill him so I dunno what I am doing at court... Noone is hurt and noone was killed... I missed so I don't unerstand whats the big deal... :rolleyes:
     
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  11. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #51
    This is almost too funny.

    - You are upset that Israel managed to quell an attack on a border crossing without killing anyone.

    - You see nothing wrong in people celebrating admitted murderer Samir Kuntar.

    Psst, look out that step into the moral abyss is a doozy.
     
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    #52
    Well, when you twist facts and lie like you always do it may look like that way.
    But the thing is the guy who see nothing wrong in shoting at unarmed civilians is the last person on planet earth who can talk to me about moral. People like you makes me sick.
     
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #53
    What facts did I twist?

    You are the one twisting facts. Israel did not randomly go to Palestinian homes and shoot at unarmed civilians. Israel gave plenty of warning that these rioters were entering a dangerous zone and should leave. When the rioters persisted, Israel fired tear gas and warning fire to protect its border crossing. Israel has a duty to protect its border, as every nation does.

    Yeah, I find no problem with a country using force if necessary to protect its border from an attack. It was an attack, especially since the Palestinians had already breached the border with Egypt.

    It seems you have no problem celebrating a murderer. What exactly was Samir Kuntar doing in Israel? You and I both know he was their to kill as many Israelis as he could find. Sadly, he picked a 4 year old girl to target with his hatred of Jews and Israel. He, and those who knowingly celebrate him will have to live with that.
     
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    #54
    Right here:

    All you do is twisting what have been said to make personal attacks and yes, I consider it personal attack when you lie to make me look like a bad person, a person who celebrate 4 yo child murderer. Disgusting. Are you proud of yourself?
    People like you makes me puke.

    And yes, I see big fucking problem in shot at crowd of UNARMED protesters! You simply DON'T do that in civilized country no mater what. Finding excuses for them tells loads about you but we already know who you are, aren't we?
     
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #55

    Well, that would be nice, but I typed that AFTER you accused me of twisting facts. So again, when you accused me of twisting facts, do you have any support for that accusation or just more dodging?

    And yea, I took the fact that you had no problem with people celebrating a murderer and accused you of celebrating him.

    So tell us all, how do you feel about Samir Kuntar? Somehow I don't think you are too removed from celebrating the child murderer.
     
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    #56
    Like I said you lie all the time and as an answer on that accusation you posted another lie proving my point. Thanks. :)
    The previous lies I was referring too are right here:
    Keep making things up. Other than that you have hardly anything else worth saying. Again, people like you make me puke.

    You think if you keep lying that it will somehow become truth? Of course, you can't prove your lies usual. :rolleyes:
    Disgusting little liar.
     
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    #57
    just give it up you are not going to win the argument against him he's a pro Palestinian even when you show him solid facts he will tell you it's an Israeli lie.
     
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    #58
    So powerweb is back at DP... I need to check forum rules about multiple accounts, ya know... ;)
     
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    #59
    what are you talking about ?
     
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  20. browntwn

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    #60
    "I see nothing wrong in them celebrating his return" iggysick

    Keep telling everyone you never said it.
     
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