Truth Rising 9/11 terrorist US launches retaliatory strikes in the Middle East.

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  1. homebizseo

    homebizseo Peon

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    You have no idea who the Taliban are, is correct, until you have been to the mountain top in Afghanistan. Goat herders LOL. I have never seen goat herders armed so well with rifles, RPG’s, IED’s and the list goes on and on of the weapons that they own. Why do the Taliban attract so many terrorist from around the globe to train at their military installations if they are of the farming variety? Taliban are of the Al Queda farming variety. More nonsense diatribe I suppose. Don’t just read an article about the Taliban, go visit them and take up with there innocent goat farming cause.
     
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    #22
    Military installations? Many Afghans have never seen a telephone.

    IEDs? You mean what we used to call molotov cocktails when we were kids? They were all the rage in V.

    The RPGs we gave them to fight the Soviets. Bad idea hunh?

    Go to the CIA factbook and read up on Afghanistan or Wikipedia and read up on the Taliban. :rolleyes:
     
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    Yes Military installations.

    " The Taliban allowed terrorist organizations to run training camps in their territory and, from 1994 to at least 2001, provided refuge for Osama bin Laden and his al-Qaeda organization. The relationship between the Taliban and bin Laden is close, even familial—bin Laden fought with the mujahideen, has financed the Taliban, and has reportedly married one of his daughters to Mullah Muhammad Omar. The United Nations Security Council passed two resolutions, UNSCR 1267 (1999) and 1333 (2000), demanding that the Taliban cease their support for terrorism and hand over bin Laden for trial.

    In September, 2001, the U.S. placed significant pressure on the Taliban to turn over bin Laden and al-Qaeda in response to the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. On October 7, after the Taliban refused to give up bin Laden, the U.S. began bombing Taliban military sites and aiding the Northern Alliance. By November 21, the Taliban had lost Kabul and by December 9 had been completely routed. "


    Take a visit to the desert and tour the goat farming for yourself. You will find skinnies armed to the hilt, high on opium waging war, not goat training singing kumbaya, holding hands around a candle.
     
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    #26
    Ugh, I can't believe how greedy politicians can be. We have the greatest military in the world and I am supposed to believe we have to privatize their water sanitation? I can't think of anything Halliburton can do that the combined military cannot do. And probably cheaper.
     
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    #29
    You mean, you don't care of your country is being destroyed by internal enemies, your economy is in worst shape since WWII, and your soldiers are tired fighting an illegal war which has cost the lives of more than a million Iraqis? You don't care that this war has cost your country $500 billion in the short term, and more than $3 Trillion in the end?

    I know, most Americans are like you. They just don't care. That explains why Bush was re-elected in 2004. :rolleyes:
     
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    gauharjk,

    American's like me do care and would serve any way possible however, a civilian's crying about being uncomfortable is amusing. When you are in places that the legal war takes you, you will have to make due with bad food, unclean water, and conditions you would not find comfortable. You sanitize water when you can if supplies to do so are available. The conditions the soldiers are worst than most humans can imagine. You just move on staying focused on the missions and the American citizens you are serving. Waging war does cost money and lives are lost. We did not ask for the planes to crash in the towers....but they did. Iraq is winding down and Afghanistan will be the focus of the US attention. The Taliban and Al Quad a strongholds in Afghanistan will become smaller and less powerful.
     
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    #32
    Again Iraq had NOTHING to do with planes crashing into the twin towers.
     
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    #33


    Dont be simple mind and stupid.

    iraq has the worlds largest oil reserves.

    so its not for now its for future.[/QUOTE]

    At a time where we were not really needing any oil. Since the war oil prices have doubled in america. I would love to know when the free iraqi oil is coming in because my giant van could use some. It is not a war for oil and never has the intentions been oil driven. The Gulf War yes. But this war no.
     
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    #34
    You can not take prices at the pump to determine if something is for oil or not.

    US oil companies are making record profits and now are getting contracts to rebuild Iraqi oil fields, the case could easily be made that oil did have something to do with it.

    The thought that wars are fought for the common citizen of the country in most cases is simply ludicrous.

    Do I believe it was all about oil? Not really, that however does not change the fact that your logic is seriously flawed.
     
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    #35
    well when most people say its a war for oil they normally think we are there to steal oil. that is what my point was with that. but there really is minimal evidence at all to support any war for oil ideas.
     
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    Ahh if we are there to steal it, of course it would be our corporations. Just so happens our corporations are 'last I heard' possibly getting some very lucrative oil deals, something they could not have gotten under Saddam.

    Sure appears that evidence would support the war for oil stance, be it true or not.
     
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    #37
    Last I heard 41 companies from all over the world were awarded contracts. I think it's a good thing.
     
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    #38
    In your mind it is, on those who think it's all about oil it is not hard to comprehend.

    US companies could not get contracts before we went in, now AFTER we went in they can.
     
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    #39
    I haven't done the count, but I think US oil companies are in a pretty small minority of the ones who've gotten contracts. Even Chinese and Russian companies have gotten contracts. So if we invaded for the benefit of the oil companies, then we've done it mainly for foreign oil companies, even possibly some nationalized companies of nations that are not completely friendly(Russia) with us.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/19/world/middleeast/19iraq.html


    I think oil was definitely part of the equation in the decision to go into Iraq. But I think the part of the equation dedicated to oil was more about securing the fields for the future than it was for stealing it for profits.
     
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    #40
    Sigh..
    Yet again I DO NOT BELIEVE it was about oil.

    I was disputing the logic of the poster above as to why it was not about oil, his logic was flawed to the very core.

    I am simply showing why the facts laid out, no matter how hard you try to make them not being, can and will at least partially support the though of it being about oil.

    Hell you even state.

     
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