Jesse Ventura for Senate?!

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by guerilla, Jul 14, 2008.

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    Tonight Ventura will announce on Larry King whether or not he will run for Senate in Minnesota, against Norm Chickenhawk Coleman and Al Franken.

    He was just on Alex Jones, and wouldn't say one way or another, but man oh man would it be great to have someone who could filibuster and tell the truth in the Senate. Someone who has always done things his way.

    Here is an interview with one of his associates.
    http://www.minnpost.com/stories/200...esse_senate_job_is_easier_than_being_governor

    MinnPost: What would it take for Ventura to defeat Republican incumbent Norm Coleman and DFL challenger Al Franken?

    Barkley:
    He'd have to run.

    MP: Could he finance a campaign on such short notice? (In the governor's race of 1998, when Ventura got 37 percent of the vote to defeat Coleman and DFLer Skip Humphrey, Ventura had the benefit of public financing. There is no public money in Senate races.)

    DB:
    laughing: He won't put his own money in the race. That's a given.

    MP: So where would the money come from?

    DB:
    He's one of the few people who could simply put up a website and he'd have people from across the country contributing.

    MP: But this race may become the most expensive Senate race ever run with Franken and Coleman each spending $16 million. Can Ventura find that sort of money?

    DB:
    He doesn't need to. He'll get so much free press that they could each spend $60 million and it wouldn't matter. I think one of the hardest things we'd have to do is find enough time to handle all the requests for interviews he'd have.

    MP: So how much would Ventura need to raise?

    DB:
    "I'd say $1 million to $1.5 million. If we could give [Bill] Hillsman [who handled Ventura's advertising campaign in 1998] a million bucks for the media campaign, that would do it.''

    MP: Would he have the support of the Independence Party?

    DB:
    If Mr. Williams [the IP's endorsed candidate Stephen Williams] would decide to stay in the race, there'd have to be a primary. I went to the convention and urged them not to endorse, just in case Jesse would run. But they wanted to endorse.

    MP: Would a primary be a problem?

    DB:
    You wouldn't think there would be a problem, but you never know what dastardly deeds the DFLers and the Republicans might pull. If they don't have opponents in their primaries, they might vote in our primary.

    MP: Would there be an effort by his opponents to keep Ventura out of debates?

    DB:
    I don't see how they can keep him out of the debates. He's polling 25 percent. Can you imagine what would happen if they [Franken and Coleman] tried to keep him out of the debates? We're still a major party. He's polling great. I think what you'd see is them holding as few debates as possible because they know they can't handle him. What are you going to do? Do you attack him? Who attacks him first? So many things to worry about.

    MP: Many of the issues in the Senate race — such as the economy and health care — are very sophisticated. Does Ventura spend much time studying these issues?

    DB:
    He's no idiot. He knows what he's doing. He'll be just like he always is. He'll be brutally honest and he'll tell people what he thinks. If he doesn't know about something, he'll say he doesn't know. People overlook things they disagree with him about because they know he's being honest with them. People yearn for the truth, at least the truth as Jesse sees it. They also know he'll put smart people around him, just like he did when he's governor. He's not afraid to listen to people.

    MP: Is he a little more clear on Iraq than the other candidates?

    DB, again laughing:
    I'd say so. He says if we could march our soldiers in, why can't we turn around and march them out? Incredibly simple.

    MP: Why can't candidates from the two major parties be so honest in their opinions?

    DB:
    They always end up bringing in the consultants from Washington and they end up looking just alike. Fortunately, we don't have any Washington consultants.

    MP: Ventura seems to have a special dislike of Coleman. What's that about?

    DB:
    It goes back to the State Fair [of 1998]. Coleman was condescending to him. They were at the fair and Coleman came up to him and said, 'Oh Jesse, oh Jesse, you're getting the big crowds here but you can't win.' Totally condescending.''

    MP: Does his record as governor hurt him or help him?

    DB:
    Helps him. All he has to do is say, 'Remember those Jesse checks?' Remember how we lowered the cost of license? Do you like the light rail line? [Ventura pushed hard for it.] He even tried to change the way we fund road and bridge construction. Had we done what he wanted, there would have been more money and, who knows, maybe the bridge wouldn't have fallen down. But the Legislature voted down his plan.

    MP: Does he bring baggage into this race?

    DB:
    This would be so much easier than the last time, it's not even funny. He knows he'll have to talk to the local press again. He understands that ... I really think the biggest problem would be finding time for all the media requests.

    MP: What about the, ummm, unusual hairstyles he's opted for of late? Would those have to change?

    DB:
    He's gotten rid of the facial hair ... Actually, I sort of think he looks like Benjamin Franklin now.

    MP: What do you envision if he gets into the race?

    DB:
    I see him on a motorcycle in the [University of Minnesota] homecoming parade and the kids going wild. Kids love him because he's not afraid to buck the system. And I have this idea for a t-shirt. On the front it says, "Two Parties' Worst Enemy," and there's a picture of Jesse. On the back it says, "I'm back."​

    Ben Franklin. In a weird way, he's right!
     
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    Jesse Ventura was a navy seal; he probably killed innocent civilians including women and children. He also supports the troops. He calls the ones who didn't serve when they had the chance, who now support Iraq, chicken hawks, with the clear implication that they should of served. Jesse Holds the military and its troops in high regard, which is good enough reason why you and I, Guerilla, as ardent activists, should not support him. In fact to not protest him is, at worst, equal to treason, at best, is being an unimpassioned fence sitter, and we know we can't do that since we are obligated to be activists who are absolute and unyielding in our views lest the elites steal our liberty. FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!
     
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    lightless Notable Member

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    I like jesse ventura as a wrestler and as a person. They could use him in the senate.
     
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    Absolutely. Jesse Ventura was not only UDT and a SEAL, he was a Vietnam vet. A recently closed thread clearly shows this means he deserves nothing but our contempt.

    "Principle."
     
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    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #5
    The dude is nuts... I think the roids got the best of him. Loved him as a wrestler, in "Predator", and even as gov, but he is clearly one roided moonbat in remission from reality IMO... He's in the truther crowd, part of those that doubt their own eyes, and clearly something is wrong with him physically.. He looks like crap lately. I wonder if he owns a comb.

    Cool guy back in the day. Just a bit burt from all the roids.
     
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    #6
    I think Jesse has now figured out that war is a racket, and rather than making excuses for the warfare state, and the illegality of Iraq, he's adopted his own principled stance on the matter.

    The folks on this forum who like to glorify war and soldiers, the "civil war buffs" and the "world war II" buffs, probably won't appreciate a candidate who unlike phoney Obama, clearly says "march them out" when getting OUR PEOPLE back home safely as quickly as possible.

    Funny how the Obamaphiles are all over a guy who has principles in Ventura. Then again, Obama doesn't have a thimbleful of Jesse's life experience, including the UDT and SEALs.
     
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    Even so, he is still more man than some other politicians. He's got guts.
     
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    Yeah, we know - you tried this lie on another thread, and it fell flat, before a lot of people. No one is fooled any longer. Many here deplore unjust wars, grieve all wars, and still do not excoriate the men and women whose lives were on the line in fighting them, or supporting those who do. One of them is on this thread as we speak.
     
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    And possibly killing innocent women and children and overthrowing governments for profit!! We know he is a war criminal just for being a vietnam vet, and it is pretty well known that the seals, by virtue of being one of the elite, covert fighting forces of the world, is a tool of the N.W.O. and has most certainly engaged in covert operations to overthrow or at least destabilize foreign governments to further the agenda of the elites.
     
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    Absolutely. I have a feeling he won't run, but I wish he would.
     
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    Wow. You read his last book?
     
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    #12
    I spit on his book and his championship belt, since I'm not yet able to spit on his grave.
     
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    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #13
    Interesting take. I would have to agree on just about every point, especially the Obama points. However, I still think the guy is a bit loopy. I think his real motivation for running is either he is bored, or he is out of work/money.
     
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    Obama isn't a war criminal yet!!!!
     
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    You do, huh, "agree on just about every point?" Surprising, given what I know of your views.

    So - vets from, say, Vietnam to now, are war criminals, then?

    Refusing to excoriate veterans, this is "glorifying war and soldiers," then?

    Now that you "agree with just about every point," safe to conclude you've had a wholesale change of heart?

    "Principles."
     
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    Why? what did the "body" do to get you so angry. :eek:
     
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    #17
    Yeah, but if he was half black like Obama, you couldn't do that without being called a racist.
     
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    I don't think he is out of money. He might be bored. But then again, he spends most of his time in Mexico surfing, so to live in DC away from his family...
     
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    Personally, I like to refer to him as "Half White". ;)

    I don't doubt his moral convictions here, but I still think he is probably running a little thin.

    Have you seen him lately? He looks like crap... I cannot see him surfing, much less laying on a beach without being mistaken for a science experiment gone bad.
     
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    Jesse Ventura is always an intriguing character and I am glad to hear he is considering this move. He does seem somewhat of a whacko sometimes, but I think his intentions for running are WAY more honest than most politicians.....
     
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