Arranged marriage stories from my Afghani friends living in US

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    Arranged marriage stories from my Afghani friends living in US.

    One of them has his sister about 21 years old married to a 65 year old man.
    How that happened?
    The man's parents told girl's parents they have a young and rich man for their daughter. So they married her to the 60 year old man at that time.
    I asked him why didn't she divorce him after she found out he is much older than her?
    He said: this is in our culture. Nobody would marry her if she divorces him.
    Yes, but they cheated/lied to your parents! I countered.
    That doesn't matter.

    Another story:

    One afghani man about 40 years old goes to Pakistan to get a wife and tells the parents of a 15 year old girl, that he was a doctor and that he was very rich.
    In fact he was working in a morgue in San Francisco.
    The parents discovered that by a man who knows their new son in law, but after they married their daughter to him.

    Another one. My friend’s nephew from Afghanistan at age of about 35 went to Afghanistan to get a wife. He lied to the parents of a girl that he had 3-4 houses in Los Angeles and that he had lots of money.
    He married about 15 years old girl, but since he was on a green card he couldn't bring her hear. He was and still is a tow truck driver. Of course he didn't have 3 houses. He still pays rent and is not rich as he told his wife’s parents.
    So his wife stayed in Pakistan with her parents for about 5 years and he was sending them money over there, was visiting her in Pakistan until he got his passport and brought his wife here ..........

    Probably the muslims here can tell funnier stories than these.

    For me one has greater honor if he Speaks the Absolute Truth. I know Afghanis, Arabs, Iranians all of them muslims and I can assure you all of them lie. I doubt it very much they can have a single day in a year with speaking the truth.
    OK, I don’t say all muslims lie, but the ones I know do ……….. and they all have fun doing it.

    (For me culture and religion are tied together one way or another. And there was absolutely no need for that girl to die.)
     
    ST12, Jul 10, 2008 IP
  2. bfebrian

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    #2

    that was funny story, but as you should know already that the arrange weeding happen because the family of the women are poor nothing to do with religion.
    that sh@t also happen in china, Vietnam, and any third world countries.
    They are many Taiwanese looking for a bride, young bride in indonesia, malay, philipines and china, and I sure you that both man and woman are not muslim.
    I'm not surprised that they are parents in the west including US also doing arrange weeding for money, and marriage their daughter to a rich man, or pretend to be one.
    The much more funny thing is that how hard you try to link that story with islam.
     
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  3. gauharjk

    gauharjk Notable Member

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    Shit happens all the time. I am sure such things may have also occurred in 18th Century Europe. I don't know when people will grow up... :(
     
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    #4
    This isn't an exclusive Afghani or Muslim scenario.

    I heard a good one from a Pakistani friend once, but it's not marriage related.

    A guy comes to America to seek his fortune, and gets a job in a big city, working as a dish washer at a restaurant.

    So when he calls back home, they ask him how he is doing, and he tells everyone he has a job as a DC. He doesn't want to lie, but he's embarrassed to tell the truth.

    A DC in Pakistan is a Deputy Commissioner (bureaucrat).

    A DC was his job designation, "Dish Cleaner".

    He gets a job and marriage offer back in Pakistan, and returns as a hero.
     
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  5. ST12

    ST12 Active Member

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    LOL.

    I got the stories from muslims. But I guess it isn't just muslim scenario.
     
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    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    I would divorce him in a second, being alone would be much better than being with some creepy guy that lies to you. Money can come and go, but what remains the same is your character and who you are on the inside. It would be better to marry someone that is honest and kind hearted, even if they have no money.
     
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    Women in these "cultures" (and i use the word loosely) don't usually have many rights, And any rights they do have tend to be the right to shut up and do as they are told. If they are sold off by their family into marriage - Which in my mind of no different to pimping her out - they are compelled to comply in fear of being the victim of an honour killing. A murder done because she dishonored her family by not doing what she was told and having the capacity to think for herself.

    In islam especially there is a trend of marrying very young women (children for all intents and purposes) to very old men in what could only be described in the west as paedophilic slavery. I mean, their prophet married a 6 year old girl, So how bad can forcing young kids in to marriage be? If it's good enough for a messenger of god, Then it's good enough for me!
     
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    #9
    This info is false .. if wikipedia says so then wikipedia has a wrong resource about prophet Mohammad pbuh.

    and the whole info u r giving about islam is wrong .. Islam does not ask old men to marry young girls or whatever !
     
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    Mohammad married Aisha, a 6 year old girl. are you simply trying to rewrite reality?

    I'm not sure if there is anything in the quran that instructs adults to marry children, But it is very common im muslim cultures.
     
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    Stox,
    I Googled around a bit because I thought the youngest of his 11 or 12 wives was 9 on the wedding day. I think she was engaged at 6 and married at 9.

    The Qaran says you can marry 1,2, 3 or 4 women but Mohammad didn't get around to writing it until he was well past wedding #4. There may have been something about marriage to children but he just didn't get around to writing it. Let's give him the benefit of the doubt. :rolleyes:
     
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    ala101 Well-Known Member

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    stOx, i gave u the chance to find resources but u didn't .. and u will never ever find any resource that claims what you say!
    anyway,
    Aisha was betrothed to Mohammad pbuh when she was 6 years old. So that was not marriage .. is it clear ? Even wikipedia says this but it seems you didnt notice it ?!
    I assure you there is nothing .. it is fair if you know Islam from its resources not from whatever you see, hear or think.

    I live in Jordan and i donnot see what you are describing at all ..
    You know what strange marriage stories we hear here ?
    old American/European women marry young Arab men :rolleyes:
     
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    Sorry, she was a 9 year old child when he married her, they were engaged when she was 6... So it;s not creepy afterall. :rolleyes:
     
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    When Muhammad was twenty-five years old he married for the first time. His wife, Khadijah, was fifteen years older than him. She remained the only wife of the prophet for the next twenty-five years, until she died (may Allah be pleased with her).

    Only after her death did the prophet marry other women. Now, it is obvious that if the prophet was after physical pleasure he did not have to wait until he was more than fifty years old to start marrying more wives. He lived in a society in which it was quite acceptable to have many wives. But the prophet remained devoted to his only wife for twenty-five years. When she died she was sixty-five years old.

    His later marriages were for various reasons....
    continue here
     
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    different folks different strokes. If he is rich enough he can always find one
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    At that time non muslim wil be eager to find Muhammad made any mistakes to attack him. When Muhammad married Aisha, no know objection from both Muslim and non Muslim. I wonder why.

    what happen now? in the US?

    From Teen Marriage License Laws
    If that can happen in the US, imagine what can happen in the third world country.
     
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    because at the time sexually abusing children wasn't as much of a big deal as it is today... A "prophet" should have known better though, Shouldn't he?

    When he was making all of these scientific predictions why did he at no point say "oh, by the way, In the 21st century people will be disgusted with paedophilia.. So no thanks, I wont marry your 9 year old daughter."
     
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    st0x, I just type a simple query in google "why muhammad married aisha" and the first result is http://www.themodernreligion.com/prophet/prophet_aisha.htm.

     
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    He could have done those without marrying a child.
     
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    Google cracks me up sometimes. When I browsed to this thread, what do I see at the top of the page: Ads by Google with the wording Beautiful MUSLIM SINGLES for Matrimony - Browse Photos Now Free!

    The ad showed a picture of a young lady so the ad was aimed at men. I wonder when they run ads aimed at young ladies do they say Handsome Muslim Singles or Handsome Guys with Less than Four Wives or just Handsome Muslim Guys for Matrimonies. How do Muslim dating sites accommodate the 4 wives doctrine?
     
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