Muslims have learned a thing or two from the Mexicans. We don't need armies armed with weapons to invade, we only need millions of our people settling in foreign lands.
I do not fear being banned from any forum, if that is your point. I will say what is on my mind regardless of who may or may not be offended.
following your wise maxim should 3rd world people be happy when ANY american is killed simply because your army kills more civilians than all the terrorist organizations combined? its amusing to me that you find pleasure in other peoples deaths and think that this will somehow improve your life...how retarded...
That's certainly part of the equation. You never have to answer to an injustice if the victim and all parties advocating for the victim are dead.
Makes you wonder.. I am proud of our soldiers. No one can twist what really happened. The 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit is a precision fighting force that could have killed 4 to 10,000 insurgents in the same time frame. It makes me pround to have men of great honour fighting for US despite the conditions they face day in and day out in southern Afghanistan. Regards
"You cannot qualify war in harsher terms than I will. War is cruelty, and you cannot refine it; and those who brought war into our country deserve all the curses and maledictions a people can pour out. I know I had no hand in making this war, and I know I will make more sacrifices to-day than any of you to secure peace." General William Tecumseh Sherman
Boy are you going to look foolish whenever there is a new 9/11 investigation, and we find out that the war could have been prevented, but wasn't. Then, who started the war becomes a whole new discussion, and all of the justifications for mass murder in return go out the window. Personally, I find the deification of murderers absolutely disgusting. Sherman had a self-proclaimed "appetite for warfare" that "grows as it feeds on the South". Has everyone read about the last slaughtering of civilians in Afghanistan, or should I post it? Apparently women and small children attending a wedding are now targets for bombing. Ah... I'll just post it. Here is what the men of honor are doing. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7501538.stm Excerpt Go count off the 39 women and children closest to you. Then imagine someone bombed them. Are you feeling the honor? Btw, did anyone see this mentioned on the domestic news? Of course not. We killed 400 insurgents! HOORAH!
9 American troops were killed today and 15 wounded at a small American outpost on the Pakistani border. Also on Sunday, a suicide bomber targeting a police patrol killed 24 people, including 19 civilians, while U.S. coalition and Afghan soldiers killed 40 militants elsewhere in the south. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080713/ap_on_re_as/afghanistan The US will be drawing down 3 brigades from Iraq in September for redeployment to Afganistan. The Taliban and Al Qaeda are cunning enemies that need to be either killed or captured. Not a day goes by that hundreds of civilians are killed by suicide bombers.
Please read Robert Pape, the Pentagon pays him to study suicide terrorism. He concludes the cause as occupation by a foreign power. Which makes sense, as the Afghanis and Iraqis do not have a history of domestic suicide bombing. By moving more troops into Afghanistan, it is a self-fulfilling prophecy. Of course, the government knows that, because without terrorism there is no war, so the terrorism must be encouraged, provoked and continued, in order to secure oil and gas pipelines through Afghanistan.
Militatans in Pakistan are being paid between 6,000 and 8,000 rupees — the equivalent of $90 and $120 — a month to fight in Afganistan. Pakistan militants focus on Afghanistan: In early June, about 300 fighters from jihadist groups came together for a secret gathering here, in the same city that serves as headquarters to the Pakistani army. The groups were launched long ago with the Pakastani's army's clandestine support to fight against India in the Kashmir. But at the meeting, they agreed to resolve their differences and commit more fighters to another front instead: Afghanistan. Militants say they operate with minimal interference, and sometimes tacit cooperation, from Pakistani authorities http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080713/ap_on_re_as/pakistan_militant_resurgence
Iraq is winding down but the civilians are lining the streets begging the US troops to stay and the help Police. I hope the American troops are sent from Iraq to Afghanistan to neutralize the Taliban and other fighters.
Bogart, you do realize that Yahoo just reprints propaganda and AP wire reports (which a lot of times are the same thing)? You keep talking about the evil Afghanis and Pakistanis, who we funded to fight the Russians. You're trying to make a case that they commit suicide terrorism (which I doubt any Afghani nationals would, if you've met them, they aren't wired that way) but if that is true, then it's likely you were clapping your hands in glee when they did so against the Soviets. Some of the arguments you make, like toothless goat farmers from NWFP who can't read or write being paid $120 a month to fight, at secret meetings, which coincidentally, they allowed a western journalist to attend and report on........ I mean c'mon. You HAVE TO BE KIDDING ME. Kathy Gannon, got to hang out with the most sexist Muslims in the world, at a secret terror meeting and got quotes from their leader, who if you understand these people and their seriousness about Islam, will not even look a woman in the eye, let alone talk to her if she is not family? I don't doubt the Afghanis are fighting back against a foreign occupation and invasion. They are doing what every red blooded American would do in the same instance. Now that the Iraqis are asking the US to leave, maybe it won't belong until Karzai is forced to do the same. Because it's obvious that catching Bin Laden, is not a priority. Imperial nation building is.
I'll have to read back up on Iraq, every article I ever read though I could have sworn the civilians for some time by and large wanted us the fuxx out of there. Just because a small percent wants us there does not = all do. Hell a small percent wanted Saddam in power. 'Winding' down, I'm also interested to see what happens when the surge is totally over. Article after article I had read by both civilian in Iraq, military on our side and other experts predicted the surge simply created a TEMPORARY situation. Imagine if we were under martial law, thousands of troops in every city. During this time crime would more than likely subside, it however is MARTIAL LAW and not manageable for the long term, nor can you try to claim anything besides the obvious that the MARTIAL LAW being conducted temporarily buffered the violence. Only time will tell.
A large percentage of the fighters are coming from the Pakistani tribal areas or being shifted from the fighting in Kasmir. These people are professional Jahadists. That's what they do to collect their $120 a month. They have no other skills or income source.
Let's use your logic: Us soldiers are professional Oildists. That's what they do to collect their $1200 a month. They have no other skills or income source.