gurkic1 has scammed me for $1,500 - follow the legal procedures here

gurick1 from Digital Point has scammed me. gurick1 is a scammer.

Earlier this year I bought a site from him that GUARANTEED to make $30/day for $3000. Well - one of the rules are "if it's good to be true, then it probably is".

Thing is, gurick1 said we can sign a contract that grants me the right to return the site any time I want if it doesn't make $30/day for the first year at least - so I said - what the hell do I have to lose? if we're signing a contract - I'm safe.

We signed a contract by hand and faxed it back and fourth, we also included a clause that said I'll pay him $1,500 and $1,500 more if I want to keep the site.

Of course after a few weeks it turned out the site makes a little over $10, and I wanted a refund. gurick1 said he doesn't have the money right now and I agreed to wait, then after a few weeks he stopped answering my emails, so I sent him a legal notice from my attorney - he then replied saying the money will be ready in two weeks.

After sending him another email he said the money's ready, and I admit I sent the bank details in a slight delay, but since doing so I got no response from him whatsoever.

I haven't got a single reply from him since then, he blocked me from Gmail IM, he IS reading my PM's but not replying, he IS reading my emials but not replying. Although we did exchange PM's here and tried to find an alternative solution about a month ago, but since I sent him an email with a request to refund he never replied.

Luckily I've talked to my attorney and accountant, they both said the contract can be enforced, although it will cost both sides a lot of money - they said that if I end up winning the case though - they will request that gurick1 pay the international fees.

Also notice how he's got a good rating, but the last good rating was in May, while the latest two ratings were negative.

So gentlemen - Let's watch a scammer getting busted. I'll keep you posted.

 

So lets see about
3000$ in legal fees? Or is it less? SO lets call it 2000$(legal fees)-1500$(website)=500dollars for your attorney.
internation fees-???
so ask your lawyer what the international fees are if they are over the end amount i would go for it

legal issues 411 by a 14 year old...

 

Allen that's exactly why I don't deal with kids, and just from the description it sounds like a scam. I've heard the same story many times. Good luck and learn from your mistakes.

 

what makes you think he's a kid? I agree dealing with those kid webmasters is something I avoid.

 

Putting the fact I understood next to thing from your calculations, who are you referring to when you say 14 years old? yes, I started blogging when I was 14 years old - well guess what - I'm 19 years old and have some exprience in web development. And why should my age affect the seriousness of this issue?

I highly disagree. As a "kid" I developed sites that no webmaster would be ashamed of, gurick1 himself is a bit above 20 years old (yes, I've got his passport screenshot) - so I don't know where are all of you bringing the fact we're kids from.

I don't think it should be a consideration - and I have to admit: I was fooled, but I have my ass pretty much covered, and gurick1 provided some reliable screenshots - I DO believe he was making $30/day with it - it just didn't convert as well for me.

Anyway - thanks for the tip and the wishes - I really don't mind if I lose additional $1,500 on this case, I'm just not letting gurick1 get away with this. I can afford it.

Thanks everybody

 

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Allen, no offense but I guess who ever mentioned about "kids" did not certainly doubt the programming capacity, instead I guess he/she was referring to "situation handling capabilities".

I don't say all "kids" are bad, I personally have know a few who are very professional when it comes to handling 'issues'. But most of the 'kids' do not have what it takes to handle customer issues. They are just not matured enough to deal with things and their knowledge is limited to college/school.

The way I would deal with this thing is :

1> Calculate my ROI.

If I would have invested $1500 and getting $10 / day, trust me that is a steal, provided the earning is legal. It's ok even if I had to spend bout a few mins on the site every day.

2> May be the site had potential back then and for what ever reasons it has gone down now, try to figure the problem, fix and get it work like it used to. If it was working, chances are it will work again, may be it will again.

3> Since you have every thing on paper, you definitely can go and fight it out, but do you think its worth the trouble, time and energy you want to put in to it ? Don't you think you'd be better of putting the same in a new project and making it a success rather than trying to run behind something where I know eventually I am the one who'll be losing everything, time, money, energy, emotions ... I mean everything !

We all have made mistakes, lost somethings, gained a few. This whole ordeal has thought given you something - given you experience. Going forward, I'm sure you'll invest your money in something better, something which you'll research about and be sure its a worthy investment.

I'd have told the same thing if my bro or a good friend would have come with a similar problem.

I have nothing for gurick1 or anything against you.

I may be wrong thinking the way I do, but telling you what exactly I'm feeling right now.

Regards,
/G
PS: May be we can discuss about the site and if I think its a worthy investment, I can consider buying the site. Let me know if you are interested.

 

I agree with G, maybe if you tweaked it, you can get it to $30/day....are you doing anything to get those $10/day besides having the site?

 

I would hire a lawyer immediately instead of waiting for Digitalpoint to offer it's advice (nothing against DP, this is an important legal matter). Make sure you have documented all communication between the two of you and make sure you can get a hold of any personal information on the user. Good luck!

 

Already done.

I have his bank details, passport copy, documented gmail and email exchange and a signed contract by him.

The earning is legal - but it started at around $17 and started dropping.

Well, he took the site down by changing some code there - I forgot to change the access details. The site is down for more than two months now.

That's the thing - I made sure we covered this in the contract - we're talking earnings not potential, he said it's passive income completley - My blogging comittments are all over my head and I have some money I want to capitalize on. Again - he somehow took the site down by altering with the code.

I appreciate your suggestion and thoughtful reply - but as I said before - I don't mind putting $1,500 or more on this case - just so theives like gurick1 will not get away with this.

I also have some A-list bloggers that will be paid to publish this case with his real name so his online future is doomed.

Your thoughts are much appreciated.


Thanks everyone,
Allen

 

10 bucks a day, times 365 days in a year, is 3650.00 you made a profit and did nothing to the site if you had to do nothing to to make 10.00 a day. try tweaking it some, see how you can improve it. There is no guarantee ANY site will make ANY money ANY given day, so technically you bought at your own risk. Did you have to give him the other 1500.00? if not, you got that cash back in 5-6 months if it's making a solid 10.00 a day. I'll throw a party the day my 2 sites go to a consistent 10.00 a day!

 

Think you guys misunderstood my post i meant i was giving legal advice and im only 14
sry for any insult given

 

Technically - I was naive enough to think I'm buying at NO risk, but I had my ass covered with the contract. Obviously the owner made the impression he is certain the site will make $30/day - and to grant it - I signed a contract with him.

Call it greed or whatever - but the contract says: no $30/day for 365 days for whatever reason, no deal. I just want the contract executed.

 

Are you sure your talking to a real attorney? I think he's FAKE!
Your contract is not valid because it was done by fax. You must have a copy of it that was signed using a pen.

If a contract can be done by fax faking it will be very easy. All you need is to find his Signature, Scan it, make a contract paste the signature and final step fax it.

 

Don't you or your host have a backup of the site from when it was working?

 

Not sure about that above but being somewhat of a kid myself I'll give my input....

Dealing with kids when it regards money is practically the same thing as an adult. By my 6th grade I knew just about everything in grammar and with what I though to be a broad vocabulary I was able to talk (email) and communicate as a "kid" to much older people. Kids are kids and I think it just depends who your picking. Getting some reputation before you go to big deals like selling domains is big. I purchased ans sold my first domain at 14 and I had no problem with the transaction as I had proven to be trustworthy to the buyer.

As someone said earlier some of the work young teenage kids can produce can be phenomenal and others can give it a try. But there is no reason why a kid should be limited, this is the internet people... We aren't trying to sell bad stuff here, I mean, any kid that can do what most of us can do at a older age is quite frankly, lucky. If you know how to run a website its extra cash. And if you devote your job to your site, then it becomes your source of income.

Again, not try to start an argument, I'm just giving my opinion on kids: They work just as well as adults.

Anyway, that stinks about being gypped by that guy, can't wait till you take him down!

 

Your best option is to get the site back. It's better than nothing.

 

keep working! we need to fight back fraud

 

Stop pulling our leg. How can you have one if your not in legal age to own one.
minors cannot enter into a legal agreements - a parent or legally-appointed guardian must do so on their behalf. Don't tell us you also have a driver's license at age of 14. Stop lying it's a bad habit.

 

I don't know gurkic1, but before you pay your lawyer, make sure that he lives in a "court enforceable country" and not some third world country where you may win but can never recover any damages.