Google Is A Bully.... Here Is A Solution

Discussion in 'AdSense' started by manuel1201, Jul 12, 2008.

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    Is it just me or google like a bull;y to its publishers.... It seems like they can walk all ove rus, without anyone to stop them.... WHAT WE(PUBLISHERS) need is a UNION. I mean seriously, every other employment has one, think about it, ad networks would pay us more, treat us better, to get all the publishers in our union anyone interested in starting this email me admin@thizzedout.com, I am serious if such a union existed and there were hundreds of thousands of publisher in it, ad netowrks would fight over wining us over....and no more bamb your not getting paid because well email us and theny ou do and you get an automated email back, and no pHONE NUMBER I HATE THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad:
     
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    Would You Join It If It Existed???
     
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    hiteshb Well-Known Member

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    so you got banned from google am i right. Then this thread is useless. Here daily 100's get banned and therefore to support them i started one thread at DP Save Publisher
     
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    NOPE im not banned still using them, but i keep hearing stories and not just google, i mean every network it seems overstep there boundaries and just miss treat there publishers, all im saying if a union did exist then we could seriously take back the internet...just a thought...
     
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    magda Notable Member

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    I'm repeating myself, but I'm going to say it again, because it's a simple lesson that a lot of publisher's don't seem to get.
    IT'S NOT GOOGLE'S MONEY - IT COMES FROM ADVERTISERS.
     
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    hiteshb Well-Known Member

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    hello magda we know that. If you are big publisher then surely it is irrelavant topics for you.
     
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    The problem is no other advertising company for adsense type ads that have deep wallets like G. So forming a union would have little impact because adsense typically pays the most, unless one is using the same placement for affiliate links.

    I too hope for the day G is more forthcoming and helpful to adsense publishers...
     
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    OH I KNOW THAT, BUT with the risk of either losing Hundred thousands of publishers to say Microsoft or adbrite, all in one day, mmmmm I think they would give in to any demands from changing their TOS to paying out accounts when they are banned for minior infractions instead of just keeping the money....or even warning the publishers, also i am sure they would offer insentives to win over the union. If such a union existed just about every ad network would be fighting for it.
     
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    i think any company can give competition to google if they trust publisher some how.
     
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    Me too, but there are plenty, If say microsoft tell this Union hey tell all your union member to come into our program instead and in return we offer this that and the other thing, then trust me the advertisers will foollow the publishers. What good is google without us, regardless of million of dollars in ad money, if they cant provide the clicks????
     
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    I'm thinking about starting it up because bottom line every publisher has been pushed around some time by google or any other company, but if started wondering if publishers would join it, because it woulodnt be effective until it has almost a million members.
     
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    I don't know what "irrelavant topics for you" means.

    I'm not a publisher - I'm an advertiser - i.e I PAY YOU
    I want Google to police the adsense program to the nth degree, to ensure that my money is not being wasted.
    I want my ads off any site that looks at all dodgy straightaway.
    Think about why an advertiser would want to pay to be on your site.
    You have no automatic right to advertising revenue if you're not doing anything to deserve it.
     
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    Now think about this if there was a union that was LEGIT and RECONIZED by the USA, wouldn't you feel comfortable with your money going into the ad network that back us????
     
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    AdBrite is too wonky, but does anyone have any experience with Microsoft ad program? How is it? How do they pay? What kind of advertisers do they have? Any pointers?
     
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    Ill PM you with the best program i have found...
     
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    ok magda found you now. Why you rush like this because you are advertiser. You never got banned from adsense so you cannot know the value of that.

    Telling truth, if you are adsense publisher let share your pub ids and other thing on net and if some scammer see your this ids then he can make you banned just with a simple trick and you can do nothing if you at holiday resort.
     
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    Well, you can start a union...and I'll take the opportunity to be the first scab.

    Google has fairly strict rules, and they need to, in order to protect the advertisers.

    This is also what makes the barrier to entry so low. Heck, if I was approved for Adsense, anyone can be! And that is a good thing.

    If Google was forced to jump through hoops to kick people out of Adsense, then you can be sure they will make people jump through hoops to get IN to Adsense. And most publishers would never have taken the time.
     
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    such a union could organize a day whereby none
    of it's members would display adsense on a particular
    set day. a sort of protest which would start small
    but eventually grow to have thousands of publishers.
    and when those thousands of publishers choose a day
    to not display adsense ads, that would hurt the Google
    bottom line for that particular day,and public image as
    a "do no evil" company.
     
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    It would be nearly impossible to effect google with this type of Union. All of the largest competitors who bring Google its majority of their money have contracts with google for exclusivity and they in-turn get a higher payout rate. They are not going to join your union because 1. They cannot legally and 2. It wouldn't make financial sense. Even if you had thousands of small to medium size publishers it would just be a drop in the bucket for Google in their revenue and it would not make them change their business plan and daily operating of their adsense/adwords program. Plus not to be a cynicist but you would have a heck of a time getting all of the publishers to take a day off of making money, switching ads...ehhh maybe but taking adsense off I wouldnt do myself.
     
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    Google need the millions of small time publishers, if they didnt they wouldnt put in the effort to even create adsense at all, why put up with with all the man hours monitoring invalid clicks, all the work processing checks and everything else that goes into running adsense if they were barley making a penny off us... NO THEY NEED US, they just dont want us to know it.... BOTTOM LINE there ar epower in number sjust wondering is anyone with me on this???
     
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