Ranking Top 10 For "Ringtones"

How hard would it be to rank top 10 for "ringtones" for a new site? What kind of budget would it take? How long would it take to get there?

Any idea folks? What's your guess?

Thanks.

 

I would say it would take about 8-10 years. MAybe a coule hundred thousand dollars.

 

I think the only way to sell ringtones is to create an affiliate program and have other sites try to sell them for you.

The better the affiliate program the better chance at getting in the higher ranks.

Of course you need content...

 

I know someone very good at getting tough keywords ranked in the top 10. Pm me and i will show you his portfolio, pm me your site and your budget and maybe you and him can talk. Does your site have all its mettags on it and is the content unique?

 

Good question, i'd day 2 months to hit the Top 10.. 3 Months at the most.

 

it depends on how you would optimize your site and to promote it. couple of hundred bucks won't hurt.

 

agreed with beacon. it all really depends on the time you would invest in it...definately maybe 5 - 6 months.

 

2 to 3 months to hit top ten for "ringtones" with a fresh site? lololol What kind of budget do you have in mind? $1,000,000??

My guess is that with a budget of $10k it could be done in about a year. Maybe. It may be closer to $30k though. Not sure. No way anyone could do it in less than 6 months, regardless of the budget, in my opinion.

Thanks for the input all. Anyone else??

 

you don't have to wait for years and spend so much to get rank, all you need is an SEO Specialist! I am working as an SEO Specialist in the Philippines and my websites on my sig get rank for just a month with its major keywords. just pm me

 

Anyone who pretends they can do this for $300/month and a box of cheerios is full of crap.
Ranking for ringtones would be a 100k+ revenue niche to be in. So don't expect to rank in it for cheap. It'd be expensive and hard.

 

I agree. So how expensive and how hard? Most of the top sites are using "viagra type" tricks (not that you would know about any of that lol), so you would probably be forced to do the same. Would $10k worth of links over 6 months be enough?? Could you crack the top ten with an aged domain and a crap load of juice poured in over 6 months? I dunno.

What's your guess shady?

 

How hard, and how much money do you think for a front page ranking for the term?

I know there's a lot of Shadey stuff going on for the keyword, so what do you think in terms of timeframe and money?

 

I would say if you had $10k worth of intelligently placed links from sites NOT selling links on DP, you'd have a good start at ranking. But you wouldn't be there.
You may be able to rake in some longtail traffic on it, but there's not that much in terms of ringtone longtails. So it'd be a bit tricky. I cant even give an honest estimate.

There's a big problem with ranking for ringtones, and is actually why it's a niche where I'd prefer proper BH to WH. There is no one who organically links to a ringtones site. In fact, it's even hard to pretend. There's no brand loyalty. There's no real linkbait(at least none on topic) and people aren't going to be asking questions about them in forums where a previous visitor will pull their link out of their hindquarters.
Or how about this. Not enough of them ever will to rank for it.

If I had 10k to invest, honestly, I'd stick to the tried and true: creating lots and lots of related minisites on different hosts when at all possible, ranking those each for respective medium tail terms in the niche, then use them to leverage a larger more powerful domain to take the long ones. Even in a not as competitive niche, this can mean good money.

With how unpredictable Google is..not worth the investment. But yeah. Back on topic. 10k would be a decent start. But not enough to rank. It'd have to be pulling in revenue already to support itself.

 

That's true, the only way around it is to create a blog with real content around the music, lyrics and mobile topics and get links going to it which in turn funnels through to the main Ringtone page(s).

Yes looking at the term, many share this idea. There's networks of 50+ disposable sites getting links spammed to them and passing the equity to the "mother ship".

I reckon half that, and around 8-12 weeks and front page is doable.

 

A skilled person may be able to do that. Couldn't be sure until I tried. A lot of niches are easier/harder than they look, so who knows.
There's a hidden bitch though. The guys ranking top 10 for that have a lot of cash reserves built up for it. And they KNOW where they rank. So the second you hit say, #5, those 5 are going to start promoting like mad again. Then it's on The further up you get, the more they have saved.

 

adwords will get you there immediately with only few bucks / click..

 

I am fairly sure that ringtones is a lot harder than it looks.

Yes, the top 5 have huge reserves/ resources to keep their rank. I will bet that any of them could drop 20k in a heartbeat if they felt threatened.

I don't think a new splog farm would give you enough juice to crack this one. I believe it would take quite a few very high pr link buys to get anywhere close. My guess is that a farm with 1k blogs wouldn't even be enough to crack the top 20.

Interesting thoughts guys. Thanks for helping me brainstorm.


Sweetfunny--- 8 to 12 weeks? You serious????

 

Yes, sure why not.

There's some solid sites in the game like Jamster, Apple iPhone store, MTV, Verizon Media, AT&T and even good old Wiki and About.com

A landing page won't really cut it, you will need to create a content site that will gather natural backlinks and do things "properly" to be competitive.

 

Why should I waste my precious 3 months time and target only one word?

I would find more related keywords for ringtones and target search phrases and not a single word.
I know when I get top ranking in search phrases, automatically I will start ranking in for the more competitive single keyword term.

 

It depends on the time that you allot to promote and to build backlinks on it. You need to work hard for that keywords because have a lot of competitors.